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    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    I think 3 Seconds is a bit generous, Average time to get 100% TP for a WAR, assuming capped haste... would be around 5 seconds, this is assuming uninterrupted melee, and a modest Double Attack rate, and Capped Haste values.
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    When tanking, which I always find myself doing in abyssea, Retaliation really changes things.
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    I say ~0-1 seconds if you're tanking 8-10 Mandies then!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Unlikely that they will reduce BP timer to 3 seconds
    Even if they did he would be completely out of MP is ~45 sec.
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  5. #715
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    Lol, well obviously Retaliation is hard to parse and compare because situations change drastically.

    But hell if SMN gets the benefit of the doubt, why not WAR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonlionheart View Post
    Unlikely that they will reduce BP timer to 3 seconds
    Funny, we've fallen back on WAR stealing credit for a group again, huh? This time in tank mode, but never killing off anything and never spending any time WSing.

    Focus please. Unbuffed, so back to 360 MP every 23 seconds. Will SE allow avatars to double BP rate for a price? Likely. More than 1000 mp/minute? Not likely.
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    Oh wow. You know what would be really awesome? Attaching "additional effect: reset spells and abilities" to the L95 version of Myrkr. LOL
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  8. #718
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    In Dallas's mind, SMN can do everything by itself. Sure, it can give it self some shitty buffs, sure it can do some really horrible AoE heals. But it can't go solo+melee Tablilla. It would need a healer for that.
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    Stop talking to him.

    I'm serious. If you stop responding, he won't have anything. I'm going to start getting on people who reply to him. Stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Funny, we've fallen back on WAR stealing credit for a group again, huh? This time in tank mode, but never killing off anything and never spending any time WSing.

    Focus please. Unbuffed, so back to 360 MP every 23 seconds. Will SE allow avatars to double BP rate for a price? Likely. More than 1000 mp/minute? Not likely.
    Except you can't get 100% TP in 23 seconds. More like 45 seconds. Lets be realistic here. You got to add the time it takes away from casting cure on yourself from getting AoE spammed, Blood Pacting, and all those misses you will have.
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