Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[Leonlionheart]

It's just silly using SMN in that way when everyone else can do strict DPS so much better.

No one else can do what SMN does, but everyone can do what Melee SMN does.

[Malamasala]

I still don't get why people argue about these things still.

SMN: Melee for TP to MP or backline for resting MP.
COR: Melee for TP or backline shooting for TP.
SAM: Relic Great Katana for melee, or relic Bow for ranged.

It is simply a pick whatever fits the situation kind of thing. You don't have to pretend only one way is the valid way and anything else is done by gimps.

[Korpg]

SMN: Melee for TP to MP or backline for resting MP.

Except, you don't need to rest for MP nowadays.

Even you should know that!

[SpankWustler]

I still don't get why people argue about these things still.

SMN: Melee for TP to MP or backline for resting MP.
COR: Melee for TP or backline shooting for TP.
SAM: Relic Great Katana for melee, or relic Bow for ranged.

It is simply a pick whatever fits the situation kind of thing. You don't have to pretend only one way is the valid way and anything else is done by gimps.

I think, for most people involved in this hopeless fracas, it's Dallas's tone more than anything he's actually saying. The man has a unique talent for holding high a bottle of Extra-Strength Tylenol and saying with conviction that it can cure every affliction of the mind, body, and soul.

Quiet a few people have even said "Sure, bonk stuff with your staff if you somehow end up on Summoner in a situation when it's safe to bonk things. I don't mind, and more damage is more damage."

Getting back on topic...Why Charmna rather than Amnesiana? I always liked Charm as an irremovable ailment, since it's already such a huge effect. Amnesia, on the other hand, is just a twist on Silence and White Mage already has a Bar- spell for it. Also, "Amnesiana" could totally be the name of a 50 year old woman from Alabama.

[Malamasala]

Except, you don't need to rest for MP nowadays.

Even you should know that!

I can actually waste my MP very fast with cure IV, thank you very much!

[Korpg]

I can actually waste my MP very fast with cure IV, thank you very much!

Ever thought about changing jobs? WHM would suit you, and you would be more desirable than being a SMN. You wouldn't need to learn how to be a WHM since you spam Cure IV constantly anyway.

[Dallas]

I think, for most people involved in this hopeless fracas, it's Dallas's tone more than anything he's actually saying.

No, they hate that I ignore bad advice to suck at SMN and go waste all my time playing a limited role job. I ignore it because the best lies they can muster were disproven 5 years ago. It's really that simple.

[Leonlionheart]

Getting back on topic...Why Charmna rather than Amnesiana? I always liked Charm as an irremovable ailment, since it's already such a huge effect. Amnesia, on the other hand, is just a twist on Silence and White Mage already has a Bar- spell for it. Also, "Amnesiana" could totally be the name of a 50 year old woman from Alabama.

I like charm the way it is honestly. Being able to remove it would make all the fights that use it completely mindless. As if CC isn't already the easiest NM in the game. Charm fights are actually fun, don't ruin them.

AMNESIA on the other hand is just... awful. Gimps DDs, and renders DNC useless. Although I don't think that Amnesna should be 100% remove, like Poisona, but rather like Cursna and Doom. It's a powerful debuff, and increases difficulty of many battles, that would otherwise end in seconds.

[Korpg]

No, they hate that I ignore bad advice to suck at SMN and go waste all my time playing a limited role job. I ignore it because the best lies they can muster were disproven 5 years ago. It's really that simple.

I'm still waiting for that parse, you know. You keep saying that melee SMN was proven to be effective 5 years ago, and you said you would bring out the numbers, but guess what, we are all still waiting. Still need a little bit more time to fake the numbers?

[Razushu]

I'm still waiting for that parse, you know. You keep saying that melee SMN was proven to be effective 5 years ago, and you said you would bring out the numbers, but guess what, we are all still waiting. Still need a little bit more time to fake the numbers?

He said he would only produce it if you stopped talking about melee SMN afterwards, that parse most be pretty terrible if he needs you to agree never to mention it again beforehand.