Job Adjustments manifesto Discussion

[noodles355]

Hey Camate, how come the Dev team decided to give you infomation to make three posts directed to scholars, yet you made one thief post? Scholar have recieved detailed and multiple answers to questions, sort of like a Q&A forum, whereas thief got one post, met with 95% negative criticism, hundreds of responses, and yet got no follow up at all?

I hope the silence on Thief is because the dev team was so shocked about how badly their ideas went down that they have decided to lock themselves away and try again from scratch. This silence better be because they are afraid of releasing anything else to the thief community untill they think they have gotten it right.

[Seha]

/sigh
This jelly behaviour that is going on lately is becoming so silly...

[Urteil]

Sasaraixx gave us the heads up when the JP version was posted and even the JP were confused by the questions:



So maybe it's the French and German forums?

P.S. Didn't you hear? I speak for all SCHs. >_> (kidding) (EDIT: to expound on this, There aren't a lot of posts in the SCH forum, and I'm pretty confident I've read them all, so when I say these are questions that no one cares about I'm not speaking hyperbolically)

EDIT: I notice there's a 2nd DRK post also.

Counting the first DRK post as a post worth mention or even counting it is a travesty!

Thats like saying,

"As far as SCH is concerned you are masters of Martial theories with the power of both Black Magic and White Magic at your command, this is our vision!"

That was the first DRK post.

[Quetzacoatl]

Actually its three, and I'd be #1.

Hello #2 and #3, nice to meet you.

I'm #0.

You strike me as pretentious and annoying for some reason.

Good day to you.

[Urteil]

I'm #0.

You strike me as pretentious and annoying for some reason.

Good day to you.

I'm glad we're both fully aware of your position!

The ability to express such accurate judgement of low self worth and that level of humility is not something that most people possess, I certainly don't.

Let alone the ability to admit it publicly, is impressive!




Sadly, I don't envy you.
Have a wonderful life.

[Sasaraixx]

Think his complaint is more towards that SCH has 3, While there are still a good chunk of jobs that have no general updates.

WAR
MNK
RDM
WHM
BLM
PLD
BST
BRD
NIN
DRG
BLU
COR

Some of those jobs don't really have a lot of complaints (Then again i didnt think SCH was complaining much either :X) The Reps will get to other jobs when they have the info. I think waiting it out is good. This is by and far better than the old days!

There really isn't a viable complaint. Every job will be addressed. People just have no patience. And SCH has *a lot* of issues that need to be addressed. There are a few other jobs in the same boat and I'm sure that the dev team will get back to them. The process takes time.

And also, Part 1 of the SMN notes was just posted. I'll translate it this evening if it hasn't been posted by one of the English devs. I've spent the whole morning translating for work and my eyes are ready to fall out.

[Karbuncle]

There really isn't a viable complaint

I agree, was just trying to explain where he was coming from.

I know all we have to do is wait, and they'll get to us!

[Horadrim]

Think his complaint is more towards that SCH has 3, While there are still a good chunk of jobs that have no general updates.

WAR
MNK
RDM
WHM
BLM
PLD
BST
BRD
NIN
DRG
BLU
COR

Some of those jobs don't really have a lot of complaints (Then again i didnt think SCH was complaining much either :X) The Reps will get to other jobs when they have the info. I think waiting it out is good. This is by and far better than the old days!

While I would like to see EVERY job get good feedback and information, there's a simple explanation for this, and you can deduce it yourself.

Get online and /sea all each of the jobs listed above. All of the bolded jobs will have at LEAST twice the numbers of the unbolded jobs -- and they will likely be 10x the number of SCH/PUP/COR.

SCH, PUP and DRG have been getting replies lately because they are the bottom of the barrel. I seldom see more than 30 SCHs online at any time, barely 50 PUPs, and definitely less than 100 DRGs. Most other jobs blow those numbers out of the water because they still have -some- use.

I can't say anything about why COR hasn't gotten any feedback though -- First and foremost they sure as heck need to get higher level bullets from NPCs... Abyssea NPCs need to start selling pouches for cruor or something. (my brother just finished COR, so I've been trying to help him find stuff higher than level 22 with decent availability.)

I agree, was just trying to explain where he was coming from.

I know all we have to do is wait, and they'll get to us!

Might just be me, but I'd rather see the info in the update notes than on the forums.

[Sasaraixx]

Edit to myself - The SMN post wasn't too complicated so I posted a brief summary in the SMN Manifesto thread.

[Sasaraixx]

I agree, was just trying to explain where he was coming from.

I know all we have to do is wait, and they'll get to us!

It's all good