in light of all the payment raging, (( must read ))

[Byrth]

... and open three new accounts so we can play a 9 year old game?

[mistmonster]

There is a solution to your problems, but all you guys like to do is complain about life. Well, get over it!

Nothing should be this complicated. But your right I'm done complaining. If things don't change, I'm done with SE. 6 accounts 26 characters (yeah lots for bonanzas) Hell I'm even canceling pre-orders on Amazon for other SE games. I don't ever want to see them again. It feels like I'm leaving an abusive relationship.

[Korpg]

... and open three new accounts so we can play a 9 year old game?

Don't see 3 new accounts, just 1.

I'm surprised that most people don't have a junk account anyway, for online purchases. By the looks of the mob here, everyone is afraid that "the man" is out to screw them over and take all their money. I mean, it makes sense to have a bank account for online purchases.

[Rage]

Top google suggestion for "clickandbuy" is "Clickandbuy scam" ...

Look here and further down the page, Rage.

You mean the guy listed the country that SE/Click&Buy dont support? thanks by the way

[Romanova]

posting to once again, disregard OP's comments. There is no direct payement with a CC unless your JP.


They continually say this and are continually wrong. You have to do CC through Click and Scam, or a round about way through paypal/gamecard. That's it.

OP should stop posting this everywhere and show us some screenshots of this magical credit card direct pay without those three options, or stop posting.

[Korpg]

And here comes the mob now.

[Byrth]

Don't see 3 new accounts, just 1.

I'm surprised that most people don't have a junk account anyway, for online purchases. By the looks of the mob here, everyone is afraid that "the man" is out to screw them over and take all their money. I mean, it makes sense to have a bank account for online purchases.

1) Open a bad checking account
2) Open a Click and Buy Account, which you tie to the bad checking account
3) Open a Crysta account with SE because the 3.9% surcharge for preloading with Click and Buy exceeds the interest rate I could hope to get on my money in the bank.

Three new accounts.

Beyond that, I'd prepay a few months to avoid having to do it every month. $28 per month, so three months of FFXI would be $85 worth of Crysta. Overall, infinitely more complicated than giving them my credit card and telling them to charge me once a month.

[Korpg]

1) Open a bad checking account
2) Open a Click and Buy Account, which you tie to the bad checking account
3) Open a Crysta account with SE because the 3.9% surcharge for preloading with Click and Buy exceeds the interest rate I could hope to get on my money in the bank.

Three new accounts.

Beyond that, I'd prepay a few months to avoid having to do it every month. $28 per month, so three months of FFXI would be $85 worth of Crysta. Overall, infinitely more complicated than giving them my credit card and telling them to charge me once a month.

So, instead of having to open 2 new accounts, one of which you will probably never use after you open it, you open a third one.

Which is my point. It is still one extra account that you need to open, not three extra accounts.

This system will be in place regardless of you opening or shutting down your account, if this new system will mean the lost of 50~100 players, all well. I know that you guys think that SE hasn't researched the effects of this new system and what it will mean to everyone, but I'm sure that somebody did their research.

Besides, my solution is best for those who are afraid of everything, if they want to continue playing that is. If they quit, they were going to quit soon anyway, they needed an excuse to make themselves feel better (I don't know why, people are like that I guess).

[Byrth]

So, instead of having to open 2 new accounts, one of which you will probably never use after you open it, you open a third one.

Which is my point. It is still one extra account that you need to open, not three extra accounts.

This system will be in place regardless of you opening or shutting down your account, if this new system will mean the lost of 50~100 players, all well. I know that you guys think that SE hasn't researched the effects of this new system and what it will mean to everyone, but I'm sure that somebody did their research.

Besides, my solution is best for those who are afraid of everything, if they want to continue playing that is. If they quit, they were going to quit soon anyway, they needed an excuse to make themselves feel better (I don't know why, people are like that I guess).

What are you talking about? Currently I have none of those accounts, and I'd have to open all three to continue paying SE. If they'd let me do the same thing that JPs can do (give the my credit card directly), then I'd have to open 0 new accounts. This is just one more payment fuckup in a long line of payment fuckups from this company.

Also, I think you really underestimate how many players pay for FFXI but barely play it. I have more than a few friends that log in once a month and say hello in LS, then drop off the radar again. Do you really think people like that are going to create three new accounts just to drop in for their obligatory "hi?" Heck, I got three Flist messages last month from friends after SE messed up their payment information telling me that they didn't feel like fighting the company so they could pay for a game they hardly play anymore. It's not an insignificant fraction of the current players, and it's not a population that's going to magically reoccur if SE decides to provide a more reasonable payment method. If they want to keep that profit, they'd better do something about it NOW.

[Korpg]

What are you talking about? Currently I have none of those accounts, and I'd have to open all three to continue paying SE. If they'd let me do the same thing that JPs can do (give the my credit card directly), then I'd have to open 0 new accounts. This is just one more payment fuckup in a long line of payment fuckups from this company.

This could be a new solution to getting rid of all the previous fuckups. You know, to streamline the payment process.

Also, I think you really underestimate how many players pay for FFXI but barely play it. I have more than a few friends that log in once a month and say hello in LS, then drop off the radar again. Do you really think people like that are going to create three new accounts just to drop in for their obligatory "hi?" Heck, I got three Flist messages last month from friends after SE messed up their payment information telling me that they didn't feel like fighting the company so they could pay for a game they hardly play anymore. It's not an insignificant fraction of the current players, and it's not a population that's going to magically reoccur if SE decides to provide a more reasonable payment method. If they want to keep that profit, they'd better do something about it NOW.

If those people do that, then this is a good excuse of them to quit, now is it? I don't understand how anyone can pay for something and not use it at all.