Comet/Meteor

[OMEGA_HACK]

Is it because on Monday, Camate is gonna have some juicy information for us!?

(I sure hope so!)

[Korpg]

I doubt it, usually there is more hype than this.

[Eric]

I'm surprised you don't remember it taking all decent roles from SMN already. Like phalanxga and stoneskinga or for fun, enthunderga. Of course it does mean SCH is bound to RDM sub to steal the SMN roles.

But as far as I know, no SMN cares about anything else than level 70 pacts anyway, so they could steal a lot more from it.

It would be kind of hilarious if SCH could sub SMN and get access to Odin and Alexander from Tabula rasa though. Like some kind of ultimate "all mages in one" job.

I'm glad to hear about Meteor and Comet. BLM and SCH are my two favorite jobs.

BTW: SMNs should all be so grateful that Abyssea lets any sort of job in. It's not a useful job, but at least its. . . fun? Maybe?

[Eric]

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I'm from the planet where people who play MMORPGs, actually you know. . . play with other people, not solo. And of course they're the best soloers in the game--gotta adapt because nobody wants them in their parties.

But it's fine. Solo all you want. Would rather not deal with people like you in my alliances. While you're off soloing trivial NMs and mobs, I'll be busy actually contributing something.

[Malacite]

The fact that other jobs can cover every single buff SMN has to offer just shows the complete lack of direction for that job.


I love SMN, but it's been the red-headed step child of XI since it's inception.

[Meyi]

I'm from the planet where people who play MMORPGs, actually you know. . . play with other people, not solo. And of course they're the best soloers in the game--gotta adapt because nobody wants them in their parties.

But it's fine. Solo all you want. Would rather not deal with people like you in my alliances. While you're off soloing trivial NMs and mobs, I'll be busy actually contributing something.

I was never aware that MMORPGs required every waking moment to be with a group of other players. Hmm. Why is it I don't logged in already grouped up with other players?

And you're not contributing anything but pointless hate spew. :/

I'd love to see updates to summoner but this really isn't the topic for it. Unless SMN is also getting Meteor/Comet. That'd actually be kind of awesome.

[Leonlionheart]

He has a point. There should be a solo aspect of SMN and a team aspect of SMN too

As it is now, there's not much you can do in a team as SMN but cure and give half-assed buffs.

[Eric]

@Meyi Okay, to be fair, I'm only picking on SMN because Kporg won't shut the hell up.

That being said, saying that SMN is the best soloist in the game doesn't mean much, and should not be one's main argument for why SMN is a relevant/useful job. Sure there are plenty of things you can do solo, but there's no denying that the crux of this game revolves around group work.

[OMEGA_HACK]

He has a point. There should be a solo aspect of SMN and a team aspect of SMN too

As it is now, there's not much you can do in a team as SMN but cure and give half-assed buffs.

Hastega on a 90 SMN is BETTER than Haste (it lasts 2 min longer with capped Summoning Magic), magic attack and defense as well as evasion and accuracy buffs, you can give monsters pretty big attack down and evasion down debuffs. But this isn't a Summoner thread so I won't go into much detail, Summoner has been and currently is a pretty big supporting job in a party situation (not to mention the actual avatar offensive abilities are pretty strong if you can play the job correctly).

[Leonlionheart]

Hastega on a 90 SMN is BETTER than Haste (it lasts 2 min longer with capped Summoning Magic), magic attack and defense as well as evasion and accuracy buffs, you can give monsters pretty big attack down and evasion down debuffs. But this isn't a Summoner thread so I won't go into much detail, Summoner has been and currently is a pretty big supporting job in a party situation (not to mention the actual avatar offensive abilities are pretty strong if you can play the job correctly).

Oh SMN gets haste?

But I have a WHM that can do that AND actually cure well
Magic Attack? Does it make them worth having over another BLM that can stun/sleep/nuke?
Evasion is easily capped by evasion tanks.
Accuracy is COMPLETELY useless after cap, which everyone with skill should be at.
Attack down?! Does it stack with Angon? Dia?
Evasion down: See Accuracy

Supporting job, worse than all others. WHM RDM COR BRD, specially BRD, are all better, and by far.