Comet/Meteor

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[Korpg]

I'm from the planet where people who play MMORPGs, actually you know. . . play with other people, not solo. And of course they're the best soloers in the game--gotta adapt because nobody wants them in their parties.

But it's fine. Solo all you want. Would rather not deal with people like you in my alliances. While you're off soloing trivial NMs and mobs, I'll be busy actually contributing something.

While the mods were so kind as to delete a minor point of my post, you still contribute as much as that post (which coincidentally the reason why it was deleted was because it wasn't following the point of the thread...k).

I have several well geared jobs, and when I feel like soloing something, be it a mission, quest, or NM, I'll gear up SMN. When I want to be in a group situation, SMN would be the last choice in that job. Thanks for assuming that I am a SMN only player though.

The people who wished to talk to are those who only have SMN (or think SMN are melee jobs) and contribute to the party by creating more risk and also become a MP sponge for the WHM (see: Dallas).

But thank you for your post in the matter.

As a side note, when will we know what the 2 hour spells for SCH are?

[Horadrim]

Saying Squall dies doesn't really spoil the game because it's down to your own interpretation as to whether he dies or not.

It's not like I said Tidus dies or anything... oh whoops.

Tidus died before the game event started... that's an irrelevancy.

Frankly, I'd like to see the return of more retro spells to FFXI.

I don't think BLM should get Comet -and- Meteor -- but since we do, they should definitely be Light and Dark Ancient Magic -- if anything. I'm guessing since we get those SCH is going to get Ultima (Which is great for me, as I have both jobs.)

[Leonlionheart]

Comet is one target

Meteor is AoE

Ultima should be for BLM too. SCH shouldn't specialize in anything, but be rounded enough to Nuke well and Cure well. They don't need more nukes, they need more cures.

[OMEGA_HACK]

Horadrim, you are one of the few who knows a compromise (and balance and sense to boot). Its funny that so many people scream for SCH to get unique spells and to not get the BLM/WHM ones (Ultima isn't a BLM spell since it not even in the game so you really can't make claims as if it were theirs)

Also Snape Kills Dumbledore!!!

[Horadrim]

Comet is one target

Meteor is AoE

Ultima should be for BLM too. SCH shouldn't specialize in anything, but be rounded enough to Nuke well and Cure well. They don't need more nukes, they need more cures.

Except they can do neither.

I was a career SCH before the cap raise, and even then SCH had a hard time keeping up with a good WHM. The only reason we were desired was because no one was seriously playing WHM because of how much more longevity and utility RDM had (and because of the things SCH ended up being able to do.)

SCH has -nothing- right now. We get beat out by WHM when it comes to healing and have no chance of keeping up. WHMs can cure effortlessly in situations where I have to constantly burn charges to try and compete with. RDM maintains its status as the most MP efficient mage while simultaneously being able to deal solid damage and issue out potent DoTs. BLM shatters all nuking precepts of SCH and makes a joke out of SCH's attempts more often than not -- even in the best geared situations outside of Abyssea.

SCH doesn't have anything worthwhile to offer compared to WHM and BLM, which are both completely available at just about any time as a result of Abyssea's weakness targeting. SCH needs some major boons to be able to compete on either side of the spectrum, ESPECIALLY healing. Right now, there's no reason to take a SCH over BLM or WHM.

[OMEGA_HACK]

Hit the nail on the head, so to speak. But sadly people won't believe you Horadrim.

[Leonlionheart]

Hold the phone, SCH single nukes can do much more DMG than BLM can.

[Korpg]

You SCHs need to realize something. You are not meant to be the best at healing OR nuking. You are supposed to be the best at doing both at the same time.

BLM: Master of damaging spells.
WHM: Master of healing spells.
SCH: Great at being a weak BLM and WHM, but never surpassing either.

Why do you guys think that you deserve to be better than a BLM at nuking or a WHM at healing? You are already better than a BLM at healing and a WHM at nuking. Just enjoy that.

[Neisan_Quetz]

Another advantage was also in being to nuke more often than Blm at 75 without having to rest, now Blm has Elemental Celerity/Emp+2 set bonus and /rdm to keep mp up alot better then they used to. still have issues if procing grellow sometimes due to spell casts/having to recast often due to mob using TP/Spell spam etc.