Make Nyzul Isle able to be entered solo/duo

[MarkovChain]

We understood your point. You want to play an MMO in a little bubble. Interaction between players is what makes the game work : gil in the economy is exchanged for food, gear or mats in the economy ; the few people that manage to get high end endgame craftable gear make it so that a few others can craft the stuff and have an activity ; the people that do AP and farm salvage eventually reward(ed) those that farmed khroma ores and bloodwood logs. The people that got money form khroma ore farming could eventually get to capping a craft or buying better gear. The people that eventually got nyzul gear to drop could finally sell their gear at the AH and make it so that the next noob could get his stuff. The dynamis/limbus endgamers would eventually also upgrade and make gear/money circulate.

You are looking at the game from your little bubble . If tomorrow people can solo assault( for instance) it means first that the servers will receive a burden. Secondly it means that the salvage upgrades that will come soon will be heavily seeked by players and eventually it is going to decuplate the material prices (for instance), or the alexandrite supply (which will hurt if they eventually make mythic unsuck).

The ability to enter assault solo is not an assault only problem. If they limited the entry to 3 there is a reason. The reason is that they want to buff salvage and nyzul and don't want to eventually flood the market of alexandrite (probably). Either that or they will make salvage/assault soloable AND buff the zone dynamis style by upping the mobs level making soloing the zone not viable. You can't have the cake and the money from the cake. It's a game balance issue.



You can't build an online game like this. Even abyssea can not be soloed.

[Alhanelem]

We understood your point. You want to play an MMO in a little bubble.

No, you totally missed the point, and no, I don't want to play an MMO in a little bubble, nor am I looking at it from one.

it means first that the servers will receive a burden.

Nonsense, because currently there is basically zero burden from assault. The limits that the system puts in place prevent server load from reaching excessive levels. Stop using your poor understanding of technical issues to justify unnecessary party size restrictions.

There are things that players are capable of doing solo, and there are things that necessitate a party because of difficulty. The latter is what you find friends for and group up to do. The former is what you do, or should be able to do, solo.

Even abyssea can not be soloed.

YOu're abolutely 100% right. But you can enter abyssea solo. Therefore, why not Assault or Salvage or Nyzul or anything else that has a minimum player restriction?

You don't get it at all. I'm not asking to make all content, or even any content, winnable solo. I'm asking to allow players to ATTEMPT to do so. If they can't, then they stop trying, and they get a group. Forced grouping is bad, period. Grouping should be promoted, not forced. It's as simple as that.

You are being contrary just for the sake of doing so because you find it entertaining. There is no logical basis for your arguments.

LOL @ being able to enter salvage solo affecting the alexandrite supply. You cannot get that much alexandrite by yourself, and regardless of how much you can get, you can get more if you bring help with you. People will still party for these things. It's not like if you let people enter solo, that suddenly everyone is going to do it solo and no one will party up. That's the most ridiuclous assumption you can make.

I can enter Einherjar solo. Will I win? No. I can enter Dynamis solo. Will I win or get lots of stuff? No. I can enter Abyssea solo. Can I beat everything? No. But there are things you CAN do.
I'm not asking for the game to be made into something that is solo oriented and discourages group play. I'm asking for minimum participant limits to be removed for content where the minimum number of participants is more than necessary to achieve victory. Doing this does not suddenly mean that no one will party anymore.

Most of these party size limits can already be defeated by having party members leave after starting the event. There is no reason why they should have to do this. If you can circumvent these restrictions, then there's no point in having them.

[MarkovChain]

First I know how assault works and what limit there is on the system. They prevent more than x parties to join to avoid more than x-teams to be in the zone because of that : it's a technical issue.

Secondly you might want to REREAD what I said. I know exactly what you want and what you mean. You want soloable content to be accessed soloable. Yup. I explained you earlier why they won't do that. Hint : they did NOT let you enter dynamis solo without upping the mob's level ! Read what I said earlier and stop think in your buble. Yes it's not a good thing to make anything solable being accessible solo.

about alexandrite : It's not "lol" to consider that 3000 players per server suddenly having access to alexandrites would make the supply too big. Hint : they did NOT let you access to dynamis solo WITH SAME MOB levels. They made the coins more accessible but preserved the same supply as at 75. They'll do the same for alex.

[Neonii]

I've always either shouted or asked the various LS I was in for help. I did all my ToAU missions and assault farming with my salvage LS, I did CoP with shout groups, I did ksnm/enm with the same LSes, I used to do The ashu talif bcs with them too. Problem is that everyone wants everything RIGHT NOW without putting effort into it. If you don't help your "friends" they won't help you back. If they won't help you maybe you should reconsider the term "friend". It took me a while to meet a few solid players on which I could count but once it was done I had no issue asking for help especially on such a trivial event. Problem is that a lot of player think all they need to be good at the game is join a LS expecting to have everything drop in their pocket w/o effort. Back when there was endgame I had 5-6 LS one for each event and it worked fine. You want nyzul ? I'm sure plenty of others need it too. Keep shouting for people interested in outside of abyssea activity, build a special LS and update the LSmes regularely. There are plenty of stuff to do between cop/taou/wotg missions. Oh wait I bet you don't want to do that. You only want people that would help help you without helping back
?

Not really a lot of people have simply moved on. It is hard to find people to help with older content period. So what happens is people who want to try it are shut out of stuff that is old hat or been there done that for lots of folks.

[MarkovChain]

Not for assault/nyzul. You don't have to have 2 other people interested into dong "old" content. You only need them to enter and then they can go back to jeuno right after entering. it takes 5 min. It's nothing compared to, say, doing a mission or an abyssea NM or a bcnm.

[Dauntless]

Not for assault/nyzul. You don't have to have 2 other people interested into dong "old" content. You only need them to enter and then they can go back to jeuno right after entering. it takes 5 min. It's nothing compared to, say, doing a mission or an abyssea NM or a bcnm.

People doing BCNMs are generally people that aim to profit from them. Same with missions, Aby NMs, etc. Furthermore, you have the option of enter BCNMs SOLO. You have to option to do a mission solo. You have the option to enter Aby solo. Notice. You have the option. With the assaults and Nyzul, you don't have the option. That's the whole issue.

Having the option to do something solo does not mean that everyone will be able to solo. I simply want the people who want to try to do it solo to have the option to do it.

Is that really unreasonable?

[Alhanelem]

they did NOT let you enter dynamis solo without upping the mob's level ! Read what I said earlier and stop think in your buble.

I'm going to ask you one time and one time only to stop flaming me or I will not hesitate to use the post report. I'm not "in a bubble."

On Dynamis: You were ALWAYS able to enter Dynamis alone if you wanted. But before, we were capped at 75 and half a million gil was a lot to drop for very little reward if you were to go in alone. Only the monsters in "the back" of the area are increased in level. The monsters near where you start and part ways in are no higher than they were before.
In short, you're TOTALLY WRONG about not being able to enter dynamis solo. You absolutely could; it was just a stupid thing to do.

On Salvage: 3000 people (or any other 4 digit number) are not going to do salvage solo and produce tons of extra alexandrites. Even if they did, it wouldn't be a bad thing because the alexandrite requirements are still absurd as it is and make mythics the hardest to get despite generally being the weakest of the three superweapon sets (with some exceptions).

Not for assault/nyzul. You don't have to have 2 other people interested into dong "old" content. You only need them to enter and then they can go back to jeuno right after entering. it takes 5 min.

I'm fully aware you can have your friends leave in order to circumvent the party size restriction. That doesn't change the fact that the party size restriction shouldn't be there to be circumvented in the first place.

Every mission BC, every BCNM, and most events now allow you to enter them with whatever number of people you want from 1 to 6 or sometimes 18 or more- You can't beat all of them solo, but SE lets players find that out for themselves.. Assault and Salvage are the only two well known events that have this restriction.

[MarkovChain]

I think you really must stop whining and read what I said because I never said you could not enter dynamis solo. I said that they upped the mobs levels so that you could not solo the zone. And I also said the same will eventually happen to assaults/salvage/Nyzul. They dont want people to solo zones "because they can" or attempts to solo zones because they want to buff the content dynamis style. Stop acting like your problem is the impossibility of entering solo when you already admitted that you have a hard time finding people to enter you. Once they ajust ToAU content you will come cry that you cant clear nyzul solo because you dont find help too ?

Your comments on giving access of 3k people to salvage not being a bad thing for mythics is typical. You are starting from the assumption anyone should be able to upgrade one with no work. They already said they are planning to make them as hard/easy as empyrean meaning you absolutely need to make it somewhat difficult. If tommorrow SE is buffing mythics, you will find a large number of players willing to upgrade them. This will cause alex demand to increase and consequently will bring a lot of people into salvage. If too many people are bringing alexandrites, too many weapons are going to be upgraded and this will disrupt the balance between relics/empy/mythics. You dont think globally and only what happens for you right now. What will probably happen is that they will let people enter salvage solo, while increasing the mobs level to 95 and still limit assault so that not too many players fill the market with alexandrites.

I'm going to ask you one time and one time only to stop flaming me or I will not hesitate to use the post report. I'm not "in a bubble."

you are. You want an event that the whole server has acess to to adapt your play style

[MarkovChain]

People doing BCNMs are generally people that aim to profit from them. Same with missions, Aby NMs, etc. Furthermore, you have the option of enter BCNMs SOLO. You have to option to do a mission solo. You have the option to enter Aby solo. Notice. You have the option. With the assaults and Nyzul, you don't have the option. That's the whole issue.

Having the option to do something solo does not mean that everyone will be able to solo. I simply want the people who want to try to do it solo to have the option to do it.

Is that really unreasonable?

Notice how the let you enter solo the stuff that you can't do solo ? Stop acting like it is only a problem of the possibility to enter solo. Unlike missions or bcnms you know that you will win the zone. It is precisely what they want to avoid. Way to many people want to shortcut the networks that one should build to progress into the game.

[Dauntless]

Notice how the let you enter solo the stuff that you can't do solo ? Stop acting like it is only a problem of the possibility to enter solo. Unlike missions or bcnms you know that you will win the zone. It is precisely what they want to avoid. Way to many people want to shortcut the networks that one should build to progress into the game.

I literally read this over at least 5 times and I still have no idea what you're talking about.