New SMN JA "Possession" Empowering the "Melee SMN"

[Dallas]

Pfft, the delay doesn't really matter anyway. I use Hasso/Hastega/Meditate outside of the melee cycle, which leaves the Rages and 507hp Winds.

[Tagrineth]

Okay, We understand SMN Melee isn't an accepted norm and people are phobic of anything related to change and have some massive hatred of people attempting to have their job play a separate role than what is known and accepted as a norm.

Can we move on now? Your opinions have been stated and your views are known, now you're simply insulting each other back and forth.

Be the better man and Drop it. In your own words SE will never add this, So why is there so much harm in 3-4 people discussing it? Even we (Well I) admit its mostly unrealistic for FFXI, its not completely ludicrous for the series (hint: FF3 you basically fuse with your avatar, Ride the ShivaCYCLE!), But for FFXI i agree it will likely never happen.

Seriously, You people *** up every single thread even remotely related to SMN going back and forth with Dallas about him or SMN melee.

can't even one of you act like a man and move on and stop bickering like angry children?

Oh ok. Note to self: make pipedream thread about how WAR needs Treasure Hunter because it doesn't already do enough as-is.

It's just hilarious how butt-hurt "summoners" seem to be about how their job "sucks" because it doesn't do the things they want it to do, when there are so many other jobs that DO what they *** want to do. But no, it HAS to be Summoner that does it. Why? *** if I know. But hey, it's okay for Summoners to pipedream about doing something they can't and won't be able to... but as soon as it's any other job, it's STFU and QQ from everyone instead. Waah I'm a Summoner but the job sucks! /thread

[Karbuncle]

Oh ok. Note to self: make pipedream thread about how WAR needs Treasure Hunter because it doesn't already do enough as-is.

Why not? Discuss whatever you want. Doesn't make the idea any less absurd. If you bother to read this thread you would see I admit fully the idea is absurd for the FFXI universe. You don't have to shit up a thread with your hate fill babble simply because you disagree with it.

It's just hilarious how butt-hurt "summoners" seem to be about how their job "sucks" because it doesn't do the things they want it to do, when there are so many other jobs that DO what they *** want to do. But no, it HAS to be Summoner that does it. Why? *** if I know. But hey, it's okay for Summoners to pipedream about doing something they can't and won't be able to... but as soon as it's any other job, it's STFU and QQ from everyone instead. Waah I'm a Summoner but the job sucks! /thread

You seem entirely more butthurt than anyone else in this thread. I asked you to calm down, and your response is some rage-induced hate spewing about us being butthurt and blatant sarcasm. Hypocrisy thy name is Tagrineth

No one here (Well, Me specifically) Is asking for some Magical SMN Melee buff. If you actually took the time to read it rather than acting like a profound Self-appointed Knower-of-all in every one of your posts so far you could see that.

I admit the idea does not fit, But thats not even the point. the point is the idea was good in itself, it doesn't fit in FFXI but i enjoy it and I'm running with it. Maybe King or Dallas feels this is valid but i can see it doesnt fit SE's vision of the job.

Your attitude is the main problem here and your childish behavior. Nothing else in on trial. We get you don't agree. My point is you don't have to act like an ass to state your opinion.

[Dallas]

Tag, the pro-melee SMN aren't the ones complaining about the job. The "watch paint dry" SMN are complaining. Please understand that the SMN divide is much deeper than swinging the staff.

The more MP recovery you have, the less reason you have to hate SMN. I think the job is already balanced. I'm looking forward to the tilt.

[Tagrineth]

You seem entirely more butthurt than anyone else in this thread. I asked you to calm down, and your response is some rage-induced hate spewing about us being butthurt and blatant sarcasm. Hypocrisy thy name is Tagrineth

I might be coming off moreso that way than intended, as a note. There's no real "rage" there, more general irritation at how so many Summoners... I mean, look at the other damn thread. "Job vision: watch paint dry". Really? Do some summoners REALLY feel like playing the job is like watching paint dry...?

[Karbuncle]

I might be coming off moreso that way than intended, as a note. There's no real "rage" there, more general irritation at how so many Summoners... I mean, look at the other damn thread. "Job vision: watch paint dry". Really? Do some summoners REALLY feel like playing the job is like watching paint dry...?

It seems to be the same few people. (Namely Dallas and like 2 others who really think Melee is wonderfu).

I myself stay in touch with Reality however and admit the shortcommings of the job and that SE has never changed a job "Vision" in the past.

WAR was always a DD
PLD was always a tank
WHM was always the healer
THF will always be uselesss outside of TH

etc etc. So i doubt SMN will go from

"Watching their pets while picking their noses"

to

"Meaningful Melee".

If it was a different game this would be a really good idea. It might fit into something like the Diablo II universe, But its just FFXI leaves little room for this type of thing because SE and the community does not view SMN as a melee and it would take a lot to change that view. So much to downright impossible.

[Tagrineth]

Tag, the pro-melee SMN aren't the ones complaining about the job. The "watch paint dry" SMN are complaining. Please understand that the SMN divide is much deeper than swinging the staff.

The more MP recovery you have, the less reason you have to hate SMN. I think the job is already balanced. I'm looking forward to the tilt.

If SMN ever gets any kind of fancy tilt, it won't be Staff-related.

[Dallas]

If SMN ever gets any kind of fancy tilt, it won't be Staff-related.

Myrkr = unlimited MP. Are you thinking the tilt won't be mp-related?

[Leonlionheart]

Myrkr = unlimited MP. Are you thinking the tilt won't be mp-related?

I thought you were trying to prove your melee swings were worth a rat's tail?

Your WS might be unlimited MP, but so is /RDM. I've never, ever, ever had to rest on SMN at 90. Anywhere.

[Dallas]

I thought you were trying to prove your melee swings were worth a rat's tail?

Your WS might be unlimited MP, but so is /RDM. I've never, ever, ever had to rest on SMN at 90. Anywhere.

I'm not proving anything. I'm being compared to a SMN/RDM who does nothing but maybe casts Cure 3 every once and a while. It's no contest, which is why I don't allow you to compete.

If you think /RDM mp recovery is that good, replace all your perp gear with gear that enhances your pet's damage:

Staff: Soulscourge
Head: Haste 5%
Neck: Regain or Attack (yeah, try full-timing sac torque lol)
Body: Crit: 4%
Hands: Accuracy, 2 choices
Waste: Attack
Legs: Accuracy
Feet: Attack

Until someone manages this setup, all SMN have MP issues.