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  1. #101
    Player Mercilessturtle's Avatar
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    Oh look, it is the "please keep pup terrible" squad. No, pup is not a good DD. No, automatons do not contribute significant damage. I understand you have absolutely no concept of what kind of damage a good DD does, and have no concept of parsing instead of going "I saw one decent WS once so it must be awesome". But try doing something other than soloing and parse it, and get a glimpse of reality.

    Pup is miles behind war, drg, nin, and mnk, and of course also way behind drk and sam outside of abyssea where those jobs aren't getting screwed by their lack of crit WS. And yes, that is including automaton damage. There is no magical "being good at pup" skill that negates the fundamental game mechanics. Pup has high delay, low damage, slow tp gain, awful DD gear, and no DD abilities natively. This is supposed to be made up for by having an automaton. Automatons barely contribute more offense than a drg's wyvern, and are way less useful defensively.
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  2. #102
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    Automatons barely contribute more offense than a drg's wyvern, and are way less useful defensively.
    K. I confirm my previous statement.
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  3. #103
    Player Dfoley's Avatar
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    While I agree to everything in this thread, I would also like to request a simple thing.

    If your post something on the jp forums regarding pup, why not translate it to the English forums as well? Are we just expected to browser their forums and use google translate or something?
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seha View Post
    K. I confirm my previous statement.
    You honestly believe Soulsoother is better than a Defensive Wyvern? It's the pet that doesn't try to status removal you *instead* of curing you and can be done as frequently as the DRG can cast, instead of on a 20s timer (depending on active maneuvers). Also, it can status removal every time you perform a WS. There's also the emergency Restoring Breath JA on a 1 minute timer, that can be used regardless of which type of Wyvern you have out and the HP levels of your party.

    Sharpshot and Valoredge being worse damage than an Offensive Wyvern may be an exaggeration, but not by much. Wyvern can get Haste, Marches, and other assorted buffs via Empathy (depending on merits), and Empathy doubles as a "steal all your Wyvern's TP and heal it up" JA. Plus, it gets food bonuses from Lancer's Plackart +1/2!
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    Please understand that we are not ignoring you, gallivanting off in some other thread. We make sure that most if not all of your feedback is passed on to the appropriate person and if it is not something that we can answer directly, we wait until we receive the proper information so that we can comment.

    With that said, making attacks on me or any of the community reps, or even the entire team as a whole will not aid your cause nor will it speed up the rate in which we receive answers that we can provide to you.

    As to the topic at hand, it has been reported and we do not yet have a comment that we can make.
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    Devin "Camate" Casadey - Community Team

  7. #106
    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Now you guys got Camate all mad

    Almost feel like getting scolded by your parents. I'm guilty of my fare share of "why u no respond", but I can sleep easy i always remind myself and others I know you guys read every thread and even if you don't respond, Our ideas are passed to the Dev team.

    You just fortified my belief thoroughly :X

    I still love you. But its okay cause its http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL4L4Uv5rf0
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 07-23-2011 at 02:24 AM.

  8. #107
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    Can I come and say told you so? lol.
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  9. #108
    Player Karbuncle's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seha View Post
    Can I come and say told you so? lol.
    I would. >_>

    Edit: Forums are quiet now.
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    Last edited by Karbuncle; 07-23-2011 at 02:39 AM.

  10. #109
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    Thanks for the reply, Camate, that's honestly all that was needed.

    Posting our concerns without knowing if those were read, specially after so much time (and i'm not referring just to this thread) can be a bit discouraging. Now, knowing that at least the devs know our concerns, we can only assume they are working on it, or at least they are going to soon.

    P.D.: The information regarding maneuvers in the Japanese forums... those would be AWESOME to have in English, honestly ^^U
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    Frejan from Ragnarok, at your service.

  11. #110
    Player xbobx's Avatar
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    Well we have been waiting for 5 years for a response Camate, you can understand how that can get our ire up. The development team admitted at a fan fest that this bug was not working as intended, and they did nothing about it, that was 5 years ago.

    But thanks for posting and letting us know they are finally looking into it.
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