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  1. #41
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    Why was there no Dia, and loldrg but Angon would have helped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    Not to mention were has ur WAR got 20% ja haste from ?
    I'm guessing Hasso + Haste Samba.
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  3. #43
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    I'd rather another WAR DRK MNK DRG over dnc for haste samba or even a COR for the attack speed/attack rolls
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    Main : 99 DRK
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    I really don't get what ya saying taint if ya trying to prove a point with maths plz try and present it a little better.

    Also there is so much that isn't covered by this i mean there's things like WS delay and DRK could have one more attack song over WAR unless ya using 3 brds (which we don't need anymore).

    Not to mention were has ur WAR got 20% ja haste from ?
    why is the DRK using empyrean Scythe when ur arguing about cala ?
    And i also believe Sword strap counts towards the total 80% cap.

    All i'm saying is before u go trying to prove something u need to consider all the varibles

    Outside all this i would rather Zerg DRK/SAM so i can do 300% Torcleaver for the lvl 3 aftermath then just melee in high haste(stacking some nice crit gear) because i seem to lose DMG from the WS delay but thats just what i do.
    Jar said capped haste and most people bring DNCs to AV. Haste samba when the 10% is used is greater then adding another DD.

    WS delay is factored in. Not WSing again is just silly esp since torcleaver is a solid WS outside.
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  5. #45
    Player Taint2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jar View Post
    Source for PDT trait BS please?

    he takes -50% with bracelets up only is all i can find and he still has 999 def at least from what i see meaning to get 2.2 ratio you would need 2200 attack ish
    http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Ta...e#Testimonials

    As AV’s HP decreases it gains both physical and magical resistance as far as damage is concerned, i.e., it progressively takes less damage. Shield Bash damage ranged from 110~223 from 45~100% HP, and non-resisted AMII ranged from 500~800 (this is not damage cut from NM elemental resist building).


    I've only fought him a few times. But also asked Excellence who farm him regularly and they concur.
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    Player Taint2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neisan_Quetz View Post
    Why was there no Dia, and loldrg but Angon would have helped.

    I was trying to keep the DEF up since I can't find Jar's 999 def anywhere.

    My WAR is really nice btw, only missing a relic/emp/mythic but I can't stand the job. I just don't accept/like when people make false comments about their DRK. Then reference a parse that doesn't exist. Then deflect the conversation everytime its brought up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint2 View Post
    I just don't accept/like when people make false comments about their DRK. Then reference a parse that doesn't exist. Then deflect the conversation everytime its brought up.
    This is why I flat out don't listen to certain people on this board.
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint2 View Post
    WS delay is factored in.
    Just curious what is WS delay btw i have never zerged AV so maybe using Torcleaver could be good but from what i've heard AV is a joke anyway can almost be killed by a decent 6

    As for a DRK beating a WAR on AV it possible even if WAR is better geared because of things like lag or w/e

    anyway i'm sure at the end of the day DRK vs WAR zerg on AV is more about who has less lag/luck/skill than the difference in job.

    Anyway some interesting stuff.

    Imo WAR would prolly beat DRK when equal geared/skilled/lucky because WAR/SAM can Blood rage the X3 ukkos using Sekkanoki + meditate

    but for me my DRK would wreck my WAR epically since i have 90 emp for my DRK and some crappy Gaxe for my WAR lol.
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    Last edited by Rezeak; 07-22-2011 at 02:38 AM.
    Main : 99 DRK
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    Ironic that when i was young i never had enough video games but now i have too many and not enough time to play them .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rezeak View Post
    Just curious what is WS delay btw i have never zerged AV so maybe using Torcleaver could be good but from what i've heard AV is a joke anyway can almost be killed by a decent 6

    As for a DRK beating a WAR on AV it possible even if WAR is better geared because of things like lag or w/e

    anyway i'm sure at the end of the day DRK vs WAR zerg on AV is more about who has less lag/luck/skill than the difference in job.

    Anyway some interesting stuff.

    Imo WAR would prolly beat DRK when equal geared/skilled/lucky because WAR/SAM can Blood rage the X3 ukkos using Sekkanoki + meditate

    but for me my DRK would wreck my WAR epically since i have 90 emp for my DRK and some crappy Gaxe for my WAR lol.

    WS delay is 2seconds.

    I wouldn't argue with any of your post. But Jar said a Ukon WAR which is a different beast.
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    So much fail in this thread...

    For the record, even though WS delay is 2seconds, when you're doing several times more damage with your weaponskill than you would with auto-attack in 2 seconds, that argument is irrelevant, isn't it?
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    Last edited by Leonlionheart; 07-22-2011 at 08:17 AM.

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