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  1. #11
    Player Cream_Soda's Avatar
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    Tigerwoods
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    Sylph
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I know you're implying there's a "whoosh" there, but there's not. I fully understand what he's trying to say.

    Why do we want an older, lower level weapon skill to be better than a newer, higher level one?
    Never said I wanted it. I said I'd have no objection
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    Player Malamasala's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tagrineth View Post
    Perhaps because Asuran doesn't just have a level but also a quest to acquire? I know Ascetic's does too but they aren't just "Gain X level, get Y WS".
    Well, EX weaponskills are actually "Equip this subjob" so I guess those should be stronger than quested ones also? Considering it is more restrictive!

    In other words, more power to Cataclysm.
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    Player Coldbrand's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Or better yet, just remove the super duper crits make you awesome atma.
    (Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.)
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Tsukinokaji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Why do we want an older, lower level weapon skill to be better than a newer, higher level one?
    Empyrean should always be better then relic.
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    Player Rearden's Avatar
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    I'm pretty sure there was still a whoosh.

    Something about an 8 hit accuracy varies with TP WS that would be crit based.
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  6. #16
    Player Leonlionheart's Avatar
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    Leonlionheart
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    Asura
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    WAR Lv 95
    Quote Originally Posted by Tagrineth View Post
    Perhaps because Asuran doesn't just have a level but also a quest to acquire? I know Ascetic's does too but they aren't just "Gain X level, get Y WS".
    yeah, getting victory smite is a walk in the park
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    Player Aeonk's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino_Kaji View Post
    Empyrean should always be better then relic.
    This is truth. New high level gear should be better than stuff from 7 years ago. If it aint, there's a problem.
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    Player hiko's Avatar
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    Meuporg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I know you're implying there's a "whoosh" there, but there's not. I fully understand what he's trying to say.

    Why do we want an older, lower level weapon skill to be better than a newer, higher level one?
    like evis being better than rudra ?
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  9. #19
    Player Zyeriis's Avatar
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    COR Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Aeonk View Post
    This is a half-truth. New high level gear should be better than stuff from 7 years ago. If it aint, there's a problem.
    Fixed it and....

    Well here you go, new high level gear that is better than stuff from "7 years ago".
    New gear: Excalibur (90)
    "7 years ago": Excalibur
    Superior but easier to obtain new gear: Almace (90)

    Other half of the truth: New high level gear that takes more time/effort to obtain should be better than new high level gear that doesn't. If it ain't, there's a problem.
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    Player Saefinn's Avatar
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    Saefinn
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    Asura
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    Add helix spells to procs...that'd pee people off but would get me more a lot more invites :P. I kid of course.

    Though I agree on giving more balance, why would somebody invite a SCH or RDM when BLM covers all those procs and when WHM can cure bomb better and has Light Proc? Why invite DRK, PLD, DRG or COR when WAR can cover all their red procs? Why invite SAM when NIN can do your red procs? Of course, more jobs could get invites for Blue Procs, as RNG covers a lot of piercing procs and DRK is the only one who can use Cross Reaper.

    But I don't think the OP's suggestion is what'll do it...the answer I feel would just annoy a lot of people, because it'd mean adding more procs.

    However, get yourself in a good Abyssea LS and you will find that actually other jobs are utilised, my group has me as a SCH or COR but not for procs. I'm usually thrown into the DD team to buff them and when SCH, buff and heal - one of the important buffs being regain. In my DD team there's often a SAM, whilst yes, a NIN could do Great Katana procs, but if you've got a team of 18 people, it actually saves time having another job ready with other weapon procs.
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    Last edited by Saefinn; 07-11-2011 at 08:13 PM.
    Saefinn on Asura
    Main Jobs: Corsair: i117, Scholar: i117, Monk: i117, Summoner: i117

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