[Suggestion] Atma: allows any WS to crit.

[Atomic_Skull]

Pretty much what it says in the title

If SE was to give us an atma that allows any WS to crit normally it would prolly fix alot of balance issues.

myself i'm not too fussed about DD balance in abyssea cause imo DMG isn't that important this does seem like the easiest fix vs making other job overpowered outside so there decent inside.

Won't happen because several Empyrean WS would become second fiddle to normal WS on the same job. e.g Asuran Fists would outperform Victory Smite, Cross Reaper and Guillotine would outperform Quietus, etc.

[Alukat]

Won't happen because several Empyrean WS would become second fiddle to normal WS on the same job. e.g Asuran Fists would outperform Victory Smite, Cross Reaper and Guillotine would outperform Quietus, etc.

why shouldn't the emp ws be outperformed?

[Selzak]

I think they should just make _my_favorite_job_ deal more damage than _your_favorite_job_.

Seriously though, I wouldn't mind if they added a final, fourth lunar that was reserved for a JSA (Job-specific atma) that you had to unlock for each job. That way they could handle balance issues directly.

[Rearden]

What happened to our mini community rep, is he not posting now? Only posts prior to epicwhoosh? I NEED ANSWERS

[Mordanthos]

Even if they gave Asuran Fist a crit modifier it wouldnt be better. Look at Raging Rush and Ukko's Fury. Ukko out performs Raging Rush every single time, and Raging rush is 3 hit crit, and Ukko is 2 hit crit. Duh guys, theres a little something called stat modifier that is different. Ukko has 60 percent str mod, and Raging rush has 35 percent str mod. Look at Victory Smite and Ukko together. Ukko out performs Victory smite and its 2 hit vs 4 hit.

Something tells me Asuran wouldnt even come close to Victory Smite if they gave it crit anyways. Its modified way lower.

LOLOL you think 10 percent str 10 percent vit modified WS with crit 8 hits, gonna hit harder than 4 hit 60 percent str modified crit WS.

[Coldbrand]

why shouldn't the emp ws be outperformed?

Because the whole point of making the damn weapon was to use those weaponskills!? (Except Camlann's Torment and a few others which Camate won't respond to me about even though he addresses relic owner's concerns.)

[hiko]

yes VS> crited asu
- with triple attack VS can hit 8 times
- the asurean build "loose" one atma in order to get the crit ws one

the winner of a crit WS atma are no crit, not elemental empy WS.
penta also.

[Cream_Soda]

Look at Raging Rush and Ukko's Fury. Ukko out performs Raging Rush every single time, and Raging rush is 3 hit crit, and Ukko is 2 hit crit. Duh guys, theres a little something called stat modifier that is different.

This is about the most horrible example you could have ever thought of.

You know what additional hits do, right? Each hit that is not the main/first one adds 1 FTP to your ws.

Ukko's first hit has 2.0 ftp

Raging rush's first hit has 1.0 ftp

Ukko + 2nd hit = 3.0 ftp
Raging + 2 hits = 3.0 ftp

The only diff here is the stat mod, while raging is 3 hits, that means nothing because ukko's gets higher ftp lol.

Since hits pretty much just serve the purpose of adding 1 ftp, you basically compared a 3 hit ws w/ a 35% mod to a 3 hit ws w/ a 60% mod.

Look at Victory Smite and Ukko together. Ukko out performs Victory smite and its 2 hit vs 4 hit.

Gax has much higher DMG rating, gets a ton more attack being a 2hander, war gets better ws gear, lol. Hello to captain obvious. 2 hit vs 4hit has nothing to do with that, either.

[Malacite]

Not only that, but WAR has native +5% crit damage bonus + another +10% on the +2 feet... pretty sure Tantra gear lacks any crit damage mods. Can't forget higher DA rates too.


Silly thread is silly. Abyssea is over anyway.

[Ravenmore]

Not only that, but WAR has native +5% crit damage bonus + another +10% on the +2 feet... pretty sure Tantra gear lacks any crit damage mods. Can't forget higher DA rates too.


Silly thread is silly. Abyssea is over anyway.

Its over like sky, sea, limbus, dynamis, nysul, was over when they were done releasing them or omg released new content. Don't know if you notice why would we leave abyssea to level past 90 no reason to, people will still need gear from the event. Unless they change the way exp works in abyssea, we are not going to leave it for exp to fight over the couple of good camps that will surport one 6 man party each. Even some of these oler events are getting revamps.