ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

[Kiba]

Ah ok, are they answering over there in their forums?

no idea, but I have just lost confidence over here. On the JP forums the thread is very active with discussion of their ideas on what adjustments would be useful. We will see, maybe Foxclon and JP community Reps are more attentive and understanding.

[Kimble]

Nah, they have the same info to give you, which is what was said awhile ago in this thread, they are aware of the issue, and will be looking at ways to adjust it.

For all you know, the adjustment could be the upgrade it gets at the 95 trial.

[Unctgtg]

I have a feeling we are going to get a 50% boost at 95

[Azagthoth]

You're even going to harass them on the Japanese forum now? I don't see why you expect any level of courtesy from them when you're being nothing but disrespectful and attempted to hide it with your verbiage.

[Sama]

I have a feeling we are going to get a 50% boost at 95

Even with 100% boost it's still... lol/cry... forget it relic ws is really... meh...

[Kimble]

most relic WS were always pretty bad

[Dart]

i'd say about half and half, back when hate actually mattered, the utility that namas/coro granted was invaluable for mobs that mattered, now that those types of mobs are actually gone yea they are pretty blah now.

final heaven, knights of the round, i'm not even going to try and remember how to spell relic lance's relic ws, are pretty bad. The rest for the mainstay jobs (not including club, staff, or axe), all have their uses/niches. a 50% boost to them would make them definitely in contention for outside abyssea if content out there ever becomes truly relevant again.

I've been an avid advocate for bumping the 5% odd and odt to 25-30% for relics and give this to mythics, across the board. It would let them be comparable melee dmg wise to empy (lets face it empy weapons keep their AM up fulltime so I don't think putting it fulltime on relic/mythic would break anything) and further strengthening relic/mythic ws via magian trials would all add up to make them definitely in contention with empy. Actually this would probably push mythic lance to the top of the dd world inside abyssea and beat ukon.

honestly i don't see any way to make relic/mythic for h2h and gaxe comparable to ukon and vereth. Victory Smite and ukko's broke much of the balance lol.

[Coldbrand]

Becuase the developers can never, ever go in and change the formula for the WS itself. Nope, no sir. They'll "NEVER" be able to compete.

[Atomic_Skull]

i'd say about half and half, back when hate actually mattered, the utility that namas/coro granted was invaluable for mobs that mattered, now that those types of mobs are actually gone yea they are pretty blah now.

final heaven, knights of the round, i'm not even going to try and remember how to spell relic lance's relic ws, are pretty bad. The rest for the mainstay jobs (not including club, staff, or axe), all have their uses/niches. a 50% boost to them would make them definitely in contention for outside abyssea if content out there ever becomes truly relevant again.

I've been an avid advocate for bumping the 5% odd and odt to 25-30% for relics and give this to mythics, across the board. It would let them be comparable melee dmg wise to empy (lets face it empy weapons keep their AM up fulltime so I don't think putting it fulltime on relic/mythic would break anything) and further strengthening relic/mythic ws via magian trials would all add up to make them definitely in contention with empy. Actually this would probably push mythic lance to the top of the dd world inside abyssea and beat ukon.

honestly i don't see any way to make relic/mythic for h2h and gaxe comparable to ukon and vereth. Victory Smite and ukko's broke much of the balance lol.

Sure there is:

Get rid of the +25% WS damage (which is an inelegant hack anyway)

Increase the damage multiplier of all relic WS by 1.5 for 1H relics and 1.0 for 2H relics.

Relics WS are now an automatic critical hit.

All relic WS recieve the same x2.0 cRatio bonus that Tachi: Kasha has.

Boost the strength of the aftermath effects.

Increase the proc rate on triple and double damage from 5% to 20%

[Unctgtg]

Sure there is:

Get rid of the +25% WS damage (which is an inelegant hack anyway)

Increase the damage multiplier of all relic WS by 1.5 for 1H relics and 1.0 for 2H relics.

Relics WS are now an automatic critical hit.

All relic WS recieve the same x2.0 cRatio bonus that Tachi: Kasha has.

Boost the strength of the aftermath effects.

Increase the proc rate on triple and double damage from 5% to 20%

Lets change that a little bit.

Increase the damage multiplier of all relic WS by 1.5 for 1H relics and 2.5 for 2H relics.

Increase the proc rate on triple and double damage from 5% to 30%