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    The only constructive thread about relics.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ghlight=Relics

    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove View Post
    Nope. Over the years there have been numerous complaints over the weakness of final heaven, blade: metsu, tachi:kaiten, metatron torment, not to mention complaints over the relic staff, club, axe and great sword, plus obviously most of the mythics for cost and performance. SE created this forum for discussion and it's weak to suggest that there were no complaints prior to the forum or empys.
    I never said there weren't any complaints previously; however, as Kiba even stated specifically that the current balance is unacceptable, but was it acceptable before to him? It seems likely. There would be complaints, but if Empyrean weaposn never existed half these people probably wouldn't have even posted on these forums. There has only been one thread about upgrading Mythics and Relics that was truly constructive, which I'll post about this. It's reasonable to make suggestions to upgrade something and provide suggestions on how they can accomplish that, but I don't agree with saying "upgrade my weapon, because X. Weapon is better than mine since mine took longer to make". The difficulty level is the same.

    There's a lot of content in the game that previously took copious amounts of time that you can breeze through now. One example being CoP: the reward is the same, but it takes a lot less time to complete now and took even more time to complete before the initial nerf. Is it fair to say that the people that had a more difficult time deserve a better reward, but that's ultimately not the case. I want relics and more so mythics to be buffed, but not because of some whiny kids with entitlement issues.


    Quote Originally Posted by DrStrangelove View Post
    This isn't luck! It's honest concern from customers over an issue that SE we think takes seriously. The worst way that SE could have replied was: "Hey you're lucky we even let you upgrade at all."
    I just wanted to trim things down a bit, so I'm only going to quote you on this. Coming out with a new expansion that completely replaces any current gear is actually a very sucessful business model if you look at World of Warcraft. It gives all types of players new gear to work towards and allows them to continue to develop their characters.

    That's one of the things I like about FFXI--you get the best piece of gear for a particular slot and it usually stays that way aside from sidegrades. From an accomplishment point of view this works; however, it doesn't really do a good job at retaining players--players get bored once they're capped out on their respective tier content.

    Either way, I hope the buff does more to make the lesser desired relics/mythics more of a priority in players' minds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unctgtg View Post
    Come on SE
    Community Reps, Development Team:

    We are trying to be as humble as possible with inquiring on when we can expect adjustments to relic and mythic weapons implemented. Please answer us. It has been 6 weeks since the last version update, which we initially followed up on since it was announced in March yet no status was given after the update.

    Thank you kindly for your courtesy and assistance communicating information from the Development Team. /bow
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    I figured this would be common sense, but common sense isn't the same for everybody. It should be clear by now that the Community Team has read this thread, but they don't have information on the subject available yet.

    I'm sure the Community Team doesn't appreciate the fact that you're stalking them around demanding and answer and also continuously demanding an answer on this thread. When Raxiaz asked the Community Team about his thread it was at least on topic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azagthoth View Post
    I figured this would be common sense, but common sense isn't the same for everybody. It should be clear by now that the Community Team has read this thread, but they don't have information on the subject available yet.

    I'm sure the Community Team doesn't appreciate the fact that you're stalking them around demanding and answer and also continuously demanding an answer on this thread. When Raxiaz asked the Community Team about his thread it was at least on topic.
    Thank you for your input. Like I said before, all are just assumptions. I am certain as well this thread has been read, but really what does that entail?
    If no information is available yet then what is so hard with just responding with
    "Your inquiry has been forwarded to the development team. We don't have any information on this available at this time, however a status has been requested and an announcement will be made as soon as available"

    And lastly As I recall the thread which he had asked to refer to another thead(Anonymous-kicking-in-LSes-Please-fix-this. ) was "[To the Devs] Any plans on upgrading linkshells to Guilds with special guild skills?"
    Guild Skills and Problem with Linkshell Fucntion I wouldn't term those as the same although both relate to linkshell. So what I did was just benchmarking another fellow players action that was successful in hope to receive the same success. Seriously though, after doing it the second time I am tired of not the same common courtesy and will not do that again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azagthoth View Post
    I figured this would be common sense, but common sense isn't the same for everybody. It should be clear by now that the Community Team has read this thread, but they don't have information on the subject available yet.

    I'm sure the Community Team doesn't appreciate the fact that you're stalking them around demanding and answer and also continuously demanding an answer on this thread. When Raxiaz asked the Community Team about his thread it was at least on topic.
    We aren't stalking but when they answer and post on silly things like when can we see mounted transportation past chocos its pretty lame, and when 5 of them answer and comment within 30min in the same post, kinda really pisses me off. All they have to do is say, yes we are working on it, no we don't have an update at this time.
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    ZBumppie for SE to remember
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiba View Post
    If no information is available yet then what is so hard with just responding with
    "Your inquiry has been forwarded to the development team. We don't have any information on this available at this time, however a status has been requested and an announcement will be made as soon as available"
    Because if they do it just one time it will very obviously give you the green light to continue to hound them periodically to demand an update. If they haven't responded again by now it means that they won't or can't. You obviously learned patience somewhere down the line by obtaining a relic. I strongly suggest you invoke it once more. Several months of waiting, with soon to be casual lol Empyreans to tide you the frick over, is not too much to ask of people who spent years chasing their relic weapons. Not to mention that they know just as well as I if that they were to respond with anything but a positive answer it'll only get them more whining about how many months have passed and that they're slacking and etc etc etc. If there isn't a positive cheery response to be had, it is better not to say anything at all. And god forbid SE reps do anything but talk business around these forums which people seem to think that's all it's meant to be.

    This thread has been dead for a long time now. People continue to bump it regardless that SE has asked them not to do it. This thread should be locked. It no longer has any purpose but to be bumped by a few of the three-four thousand-ish people who own relics that feel entitled to come before the other several hundred thousand players. This thread is nothing but flame material now. The universal laws of forum moderation dictates this thread be locked.
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    My conclusion based on lack of response has been our community reps in the NA forums here have not been attentive with inquiries on this thread to relay to the development team. I have decided today to give up since it is no use touching base on this when they are just ignoring. Therefore I have posted in the JP forums instead:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post130229
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    Ah ok, are they answering over there in their forums?
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