[DEVS] Briarius Helms, sobek Skins and various other Abyssea NM drops

[Atomic_Skull]

Don't get me wrong, I don't want Moogles on the street corners handing them out - but this is because I want to earn it through fun and challenging game play,

It is impossible to make "challenging" gameplay in an MMO like FFXI. There are only two possibilities in a game where actions are based on math and dice rolls.


A. The players figure out a strategy that wins 100%. Everyone then use that Strategy and only that strategy.

B. The mob is just flat out impossible (e.g. Absolute Virtue when the cap was lvl 75)

[Atomic_Skull]

I think empyrean weapons should be sold from an NPC for about 1 million gil (that's a LOT of gil!)
This allows for people who have lives like school or work to obtain weapons that those no life elitist players get by playing without sleep.

No 1 million is not a lot of gil. At that price I could make enough gil for 1 empyrean weapon with one day of fishing and cooking. Or I could just buy 52 of them outright.

[Runespider]

Just goes to show, the easier you make something the even easier people want it. You never reach a point where people are happy.

[Yarly]

BUT THESE WEAPONS ARE MY DREAM AND THEY ARE TOO HARD TO GET!
ARGHHH WHY DOESNT ANYONE UNDERSTAND??????????????

[Selzak]

That would somewhat justify the obscene number of items required for those trials. S-E really dropped the ball in assuming everyone has connections to linkshells that fight these NMs on such a regular basis. 50 of any of those items at those drop rates is absurd in any other situation.

I don't think they assumed everyone could obtain them. They're not supposed to be common weapons.

[Zyla420]

my opinion on the matter is that empy's are fine just as they are, if anything they need to be made harder to get. i say this as a fairly casual player myself, only times i really get to play much are on my days off as i have a job and have bills to pay.

with that kept in mind, i'm working on a twasthar AND a caladbolg. got dagger ready to start getting items from glavoid and just got greatsword on the vnm tier. and all i can say was that getting that far is simplistic, and getting the items won't be that hard either. it takes a grand total of 4 ppl to do a cleave pt to farm triggers for these NMs: whm, war, thf for pulling, blm for capping azure. after that most of these are easily done with groups of 3+ ppl, and a good bit can be duo'd or solo'd as well.

as it stands though, it's too easy as it is, and again i say this as a casual gamer myself. if this is too hard for you then perhaps making friends is in order...

[Lynchilles]

SE should make Empyrean weapons a 100% drop from Level 5 Rabbits in East Ronafure. Otherwise it's way too hard to get one. Wwwaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!

[Vold]

Someone explain to me the difference between buying an Empyrean and buying a relic. You can't, because it's the same exact thing. You are skipping doing the work to obtain what you want sooner than later. You can defend buying relics until you are blue in the face. You could even make perfect sense as to why it's "not practical" to do it any other way. I could probably do a better job at it than you, whoever you may be, because I wouldn't have interests or emotions attached. But at the end of the day it is exactly the same thing. You are taking shortcuts to obtain an item faster. It's called double standard for a reason.

With that said, there is one reason alone why this change would be a bad idea and it's all the reason that is required to shut it down in it's tracks: Selling drops in bazaars would create more congestion sooner than later. As it stands, you have to hunt a buyer or seller, go to zone with them, lot drops. It slows you down considerably. It should stay that way.

I don't think they assumed everyone could obtain them. They're not supposed to be common weapons.

They are designed for everyone to obtain them. And who says they aren't supposed to be common? If they weren't supposed to be common then they wouldn't be. They'd cost 200 million gil in some form of Abyssea currency that was restricted to linkshells only every 3 days.

[Yarly]

SE should make Empyrean weapons a 100% drop from Level 5 Rabbits in East Ronafure. Otherwise it's way too hard to get one. Wwwaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!

That's too easy, stop trolling the forums and let people with REAL ideas post them without having to weed through dumb posts like this one! This isn't BG you know, like amagad.

[Khajit]

That's too easy, stop trolling the forums and let people with REAL ideas post them without having to weed through dumb posts like this one! This isn't BG you know, like amagad.

Why are you so mean you troll! YOu cant do anything but be mean to other people when they post good ideas! A week is way too much time spent getting a lv 80 empy!