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  1. #471
    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Assuming that SMN is eating RCB, and getting Haste, Marchx2, and Haste Samba, yes. And it's 150/400.
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  2. #472
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    If only 100 out of 400 damage is attributable to an unhasted avatar, melee SMN is the best playstyle for SMN by miles.
    Only if raw damage is what you're trying to do. Support styles are still just as beneficial in various circumstances.
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  3. #473
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Only if raw damage is what you're trying to do. Support styles are still just as beneficial in various circumstances.
    I specifically pointed that out. BG says "not for SMN."

    GG, the extra damage was assumed to be from a hasted pet. A buff cycler isn't buffing their pet.
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  4. #474
    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    If only 100 out of 400 damage is attributable to an unhasted avatar, melee SMN is the best playstyle for SMN by miles.

    Raz, you begged to have a number. You have one. You are 1/10th a WAR.
    I'd rather be 1/10th a WAR while supporting the party and overall improving it's performance than 1/3 a WAR and that be my dedicated role
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    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  5. #475
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    I specifically pointed that out. BG says "not for SMN."
    In case you haven't figured it out after 24 pages (at 20 posts per page), we don't care what BG says.
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  6. #476
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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    I'd rather be 1/10th a WAR while supporting the party and overall improving it's performance than <1/3 a WAR and that be my dedicated role
    Specifically REMOVE the SMN, and you remove the last 15% haste. Only a SMN is going to haste Garuda.

    Al, Byrth is BG's liason.
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  7. #477
    Player TybudX's Avatar
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    I'd rather have a WHM who can Haste everybody and keep them alive, but hey, you showed up on melee SMN. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    False on both counts. I don't always disagree, nor do I think I'm always right.

  8. #478
    Player Razushu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Specifically REMOVE the SMN, and you remove the last 15% haste. Only a SMN is going to haste Garuda.

    Al, Byrth is BG's liason.
    If you remove the SMN you remove the Garuda. Only a SMN is going to summon Garuda.
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    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  9. #479
    Player TybudX's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by dallas
    If only 100 out of 400 damage is attributable to an unhasted avatar, melee SMN is the best playstyle for SMN by miles.
    In which case, replace all melee SMN with real DDs. Problem solved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    False on both counts. I don't always disagree, nor do I think I'm always right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razushu View Post
    If you remove the SMN you remove the Garuda. Only a SMN is going to summon Garuda.
    For you, that's only 100 out of 400. You've already chosen to remove 75% of SMN.

    Ty, unless it's a Ukon WAR, you need more math. Korpg was all excited about a Byakko's Axe WAR. Go for it!
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