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  1. #441
    Player Aurara's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Anyway... a small handful of DD staves amidst a pile of magey staves is not a problem. SMN gets an awesome mythic weapon if by some miracle you can obtain one. I'm not sure what to say about the BLM or SCH mythics though.
    The blm and sch mythics are pretty terrible, nirvana is awesome though
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  2. #442
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Amazing you attribute all that damage to WAR, not the SMN, DNC, or BRD who provided the buffs.
    Wow, can you be any more dense? I mean, seriously?
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  3. #443
    Player Aurara's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Wow, can you be any more dense? I mean, seriously?
    He's 100% serious it seems.
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    Hey Korpg, is it time to point out that 400-250 = 150 = Bp/release fail?
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  5. #445
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Hey Dallas, is it time to point out that I never said I did BP/Release and that your whole argument fails? Your ENTIRE argument fails completely.
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  6. #446
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al
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    You would seriously rather have a weapon that is only useful when you don't even need to be at an event over one that augments SMN's BP damage and perpetuation costs? So SMN meleeing > Avatar BP x1.3 and Perp -6 on a single staff? Remember, it's going to have about the same crappy base damage and delay, so all you lose out on is ODD and ~1500mp that you aren't using anyways, and you gain some random crap staff WS damage in the mix.

    At 254dps on melee swings with ODD 60% your regular dps would be 158ish. Lets say PC goes from 4500 -> 5850 average, you end up with 1350/45 = 30dps from better BP damage, so now you are at 188dps. You need 66dps to make up the difference. Lets say you WS once every 4.1 seconds, plus JA delay so 6.1 seconds. Your random crappy WS only has to do 400 damage and you are back on par with Empyrean meleeing, while having a staff that isn't actually completely gimp for every other SMN in the game except Dallas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    False on both counts. I don't always disagree, nor do I think I'm always right.

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    Except he assumed the Smn is getting the same buffs - you know, forget it, your skull is too thick to get it.
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  8. #448
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Hey Dallas, is it time to point out that I never said I did BP/Release and that your whole argument fails? Your ENTIRE argument fails completely.

    Who is the idiot who still thinks I said Hver beats Ukon in a thread where I specifically point out that buffs destroy pet jobs?
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  9. #449
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Amazing you attribute all that damage to WAR, not the SMN, DNC, or BRD who provided the buffs.
    Oh so now you're accepting that buffs contribute to damage, this is good. This is progress.
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    Summoner [suhm-uhn-er]

    1. Mystics who conjure avatars to fight by their sides, then sit back and enjoy the show while paying close attention to their MP as their minions deliver devastating blows to adversaries and provide aid to allies.
    2. Not a melee

  10. #450
    Player Korpg's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Who is the idiot who still thinks I said Hver beats Ukon in a thread where I specifically point out that buffs destroy pet jobs?
    How many days after you state that Hver beats Ukon did it take for you to say that?
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