Do Relic, Mythic, and Empyrean staves lack utility?

[Dallas]

MP is less of a problem for a melee summoner than it will ever be for any other summoner strategy.

I'm the bad guy, so I fixed your post.

[Razushu]

I'm the bad guy, so I fixed your post.

You're Special. Both styles have more than enough MP to perform well sure every 300%TP you can get 1500MP back but you wouldn't need nearly that much. Where as a refresh/perp set will save alot over time, With Garuda I save 240MP a minute from just cancelling perp cost with gear plus I get +2mp per tick back from her for a gained so thats a total 280MP a minute saved over someone with 0 perp/refresh gear on. Now this might not seem like much to someone like you who is blind to any number below 100 or so it seems thats a net gain of 1400MP over a 5 minute period. More than enough to go continously when coupled with elemental siphon and sublimation.

So tell me how your style has less of a problem with MP than my style when I have 0 problem maintaining mine under ANY circumstance.

[Dallas]

So tell me how your style has less of a problem with MP than my style when I have 0 problem maintaining mine under ANY circumstance.

I replace your useless staff with a real staff. I change NOTHING else. I do everything you just did AND have 1500mp extra MP. Melee SMN does everything you do, but with more MP, better buffs, and more damage.

That's if I was only playing the game to spank some guy who can't be bothered to level his staff skill. In reality, you are far too lazy to interest me.

[Razushu]

I replace your useless staff with a real staff. I change NOTHING else. I do everything you just did AND have 1500mp extra MP. Melee SMN does everything you do, but with more MP, better buffs, and more damage.

That's if I was only playing the game to spank some guy who can't be bothered to level his staff skill. In reality, you are far too lazy to interest me.

More MP on top of more MP than you can use is pointless. Melee SMN cannot do everything I do unless you think I predator claws every 45 secs and hastega every 5 minutes. Show me someone who claims they can DD, melee for MP, cycle buffs and back up the party and I'll show you a liar. Better buffs, how? we have access to the same buffs except I wear a good idle set so I don't need to worry about MP and can spend my time cycling avatars to give multiple buffs to my party. Why do I need to level staff that badly I have no interest in a niche playstyle I'll never lose an invite over it, I have capped Summoning magic skill and I worked like hell to do it, Why because it matters for every aspect of SMN.

Still waiting to be spanked here, I've countered every single argument you've made logically while you pick little bits of my posts and respond to that and even then it's usually you just flexing ur ego or flashing your epeen. Lazy? Ha I'm leveling BST solo, why? Because I'm ensuring all it's combat skills are capped or close to as I level. Because BST is the job you think SMN is and I'm leveling it for those moments where I want to melee beside a pet.

[Dallas]

I'll show you a liar.

Will it be as fantastic as your Full Swing was? You should swing your staff as much as you swing at me.

[Razushu]

Will it be as fantastic as your Full Swing was? You should swing your staff as much as you swing at me.

No I shouldn't I'm neither geared for it nor am I playing a job that was designed with melee in mind.

-EDIT-

You still miss the point of my posting that Full Swing info IT WAS TO SHOW YOU HOW NULL ANY ARGUMENT IS IF IT'S RELIANT ON NUMBERS FROM ABYSSEA TO SOUND ATTRACTIVE.

If the best you can do on a full swing geared/skilled/merited with full melee atmas is <x3 my damage with a weapon twice as good then I'm afraid your numbers aren't all that great either.

[Dallas]

You still miss the point

Level staff skill and get a real weapon and you'll understand why I ignored your point.

[Korpg]

I replace your useless staff with a real staff. I change NOTHING else. I do everything you just did AND have 1500mp extra MP. Melee SMN does everything you do, but with more MP, better buffs, and more damage.

That's if I was only playing the game to spank some guy who can't be bothered to level his staff skill. In reality, you are far too lazy to interest me.

I knew that Dallas was going to bring out laziness back to his argument.

Again with the "my way or the highway" attitude Dallas? You know you aren't attracting people into your point of view by doing that.

Also, while you may do more damage at first, you will die more than I would. And what is the point in doing more damage when our DoT will be equal or so close it will not matter.

Don't forget that after you die, you will have to wait 5 minutes just to do anything because you don't have the gear to keep your avatar out without meleeing or risk dying again.