Haste and You... A guide to the misinformed.

[wish12oz]

I don't know what this animation delay you guys are talking about is, I've gear swapped out of it before and had 100% TP before Ukko's Fury was finished taking forever.

When you use any JA or WS, theres 1-2 second delay that interrupts attack rounds where you cant do anything but use another ja/cast a spell.

So like, if you use a 5 hit and take 10 seconds to get 100 tp, it takes you 12 seconds to get 100tp and ws and then start to get tp again. So the round is 12 seconds, not 10, and that inherently lowers the effectiveness of haste. And while this arguement is true, its also very stupid and not worth considering at all, unless you have capped haste.

I think thats what we're talking about anyway, I'm kind of out of it today, I think I might be sick, so I'm hoping this is even understandable honestly lol.

[Greatguardian]

When you use any JA or WS, theres 1-2 second delay that interrupts attack rounds where you cant do anything but use another ja/cast a spell.

So like, if you use a 5 hit and take 10 seconds to get 100 tp, it takes you 12 seconds to get 100tp and ws and then start to get tp again. So the round is 12 seconds, not 10, and that inherently lowers the effectiveness of haste. And while this arguement is true, its also very stupid and not worth considering at all, unless you have capped haste.

I think thats what we're talking about anyway, I'm kind of out of it today, I think I might be sick, so I'm hoping this is even understandable honestly lol.

That's correct. Action delay can be minimized to a degree, since initial actions take 120 delay (slightly over 2s), and all subsequent actions that you "Chain" onto the first action take 60 delay (~1s). But at very low weapon delay numbers, action delay will marginally decrease the value of haste the more you WS/JA.

[Leonlionheart]

That's correct. Action delay can be minimized to a degree, since initial actions take 120 delay (slightly over 2s), and all subsequent actions that you "Chain" onto the first action take 60 delay (~1s). But at very low weapon delay numbers, action delay will marginally decrease the value of haste the more you WS/JA.

This is what I'm seeing then since I usually warrior's charge or meditate after Ukko's

[Tagrineth]

haste does take a while to proc

[RAIST]

That delay is constant regardless of what gear you have on, so in that narrow time frame all setups are equal--but after that first hit with haste gear back on, each hit until you swap and WS is reduced. So you can't just summarily dismiss it like that. It DOES increase your DoT ratio on a more progressive scale for each % added in comparison.

[Leonlionheart]

That delay is constant regardless of what gear you have on, so in that narrow time frame all setups are equal--but after that first hit with haste gear back on, each hit until you swap and WS is reduced. So you can't just summarily dismiss it like that. It DOES increase your DoT ratio on a more progressive scale for each % added in comparison.

Well I'll parse anyone who disagrees that you should have separate TP (stacked with maximum haste) and WS sets.

I use a Blitz Ring.

[Gokku]

necro bumping this so it stays fresh

[Leonlionheart]

Can we petition this to be stickied?

[Gokku]

Bump of Sticky please

[Vold]

Bump of Sticky please

Stop eff'n bumping dead threads. People who have sense already use haste. People that don't care DO NOT care. Let this die already.