Can we get a different negative effect from Retaliation please(/hates moving slow ><)

[kingfury]

True, but in terms of "beneficial" stuff, not getting hit from a successful parry is a good thing. Getting hit more, even if it in-directly helps Retaliation proc more, is still sorta on the bad list yeah? Most still wouldn't notice it enough to say, "Hey, I'm retaliating more all of a sudden" since parry only procs when pixy children are born... on sunny days... with Wind weather only.

At any rate, I wouldn't mind anything else, so long as it's not movement speed ><

Then again... why do we need a negative side to this JA at all?

[Habiki]

True, but in terms of "beneficial" stuff, not getting hit from a successful parry is a good thing. Getting hit more, even if it in-directly helps Retaliation proc more, is still sorta on the bad list yeah? Most still wouldn't notice it enough to say, "Hey, I'm retaliating more all of a sudden" since parry only procs when pixy children are born... on sunny days... with Wind weather only.

At any rate, I wouldn't mind anything else, so long as it's not movement speed ><

Then again... why do we need a negative side to this JA at all?

How about they switch the movement speed down effect with -30% crit hit rate since it doesn't matter to the op as long as its not movement speed down.

The negative is balanced. If anything they need to change it to something that gimps war a little bit as it stands warrior is completly overpowered.

[kingfury]

How about they switch the movement speed down effect with -30% crit hit rate since it doesn't matter to the op as long as its not movement speed down.

The negative is balanced. If anything they need to change it to something that gimps war a little bit as it stands warrior is completly overpowered.

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Ugh. Where are you from, the PUP side of things? Why are you posting in WAR threads? Never mind. Please don't respond. I don't feel like going back and forth with ya. I'm tired of post like these.

wth are you talking about "The negative is balanced." Balanced how? Based on what? Ughh ><

[Arcon]

wth are you talking about "The negative is balanced." Balanced how? Based on what? Ughh ><

There's a lot of abilities that offer certain trade-offs. Zergressor is another WAR example. And I don't really see anything wrong with it, sacrificing one thing for another. I just find movement speed reduction horribly annoying. I'd trade it for Attack Down for example.

[kingfury]

There's a lot of abilities that offer certain trade-offs. Zergressor is another WAR example. And I don't really see anything wrong with it, sacrificing one thing for another. I just find movement speed reduction horribly annoying. I'd trade it for Attack Down for example.

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Right, and I'm all fine with a trade-off from using Retaliation, but great Altana's jiblets let it be something other than reduced movement speed!

Attack down I could live with too, /agreed.