Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Greatguardian]

Actually it does, but he's an idiot anyway.

What law, praytell, would Abyssea leechers be breaking?

Legality is related to legitimacy, however the adjective "Legal" specifically refers to a function of Law and not equity. As funny as it is to hear him call players illegitimate, illegal is quite wrong.

[rog]

What law, praytell, would Abyssea leechers be breaking?

Legality is related to legitimacy, however the adjective "Legal" specifically refers to a function of Law and not equity. As funny as it is to hear him call players illegitimate, illegal is quite wrong.

None, hence why he's an idiot.

However illegal can refer to anything that is against any set of rules. For example, an illegal move in chess. It doesn't only refer to laws passed by a government.

[Pikel]

on second place, less exp parties hurt the economy. I'm on Siren and the crystals here raised to awful prices because with less exp parties, crystals are more rare (not all crafters want to go farm their clusters).
More pricey crystals means more expensive consumable items (10k for a stack of shihei), and less mid-level gear (because the crafters can't sell them anymore at a worthy price and rate, as key-whores will skip that armor to wear cruor armor when they hit 78).

Wow we need to stop abyssea leeching to force people to farm crystals and such because prices are to high for crafters? We'll I am naturally against raising the level cap to me this would be a dumb reason to raise it. Prices have gone up on a lot of things that are effected by not having old school exp parties. Signet staves, Imperial coins and crystals are the 3 I notice are greatly effected by less old school parties. Know what I say to that? Sweet and easier way to farm gil. That's how the game works boys and girls. The mechanics change and someone steps in to farm up the items.

I think what some of you are failing to realize is the deterrent to leeching say nin from 30-90 then main tanking the next day is YOU SUCK! You have to take the time to play catchup to some sort of degree on the job before you play it. Even if you have the skills from another job you still don't know the new jobs play style and it will show. Now someone sucking in abyssea wow like that's not new but people do get sick of it quick and stop asking these retards to join them. Just my two cents

[Avina]

tl;dr: you don't like it, so you want to force everyone to play with you.

People are entitled to their opinion dude lol. Yes, this is has taken away from people who like 6-man. On the flip side, you are saying "I like my fast exp, those of you who don't, tough luck." It's the same argument that you are complaining that she is making except from the opposite point of view.

Bottom line is that some people love it, some people hate it. But really, why troll people for differing opinions (oh right, the internet). All you can really do is give your opinion on the situation, and let others give theirs.

[Greatguardian]

None, hence why he's an idiot.

However illegal can refer to anything that is against any set of rules. For example, an illegal move in chess. It doesn't only refer to laws passed by a government.

Quite true. The context in particular I was pointing out was his saying that leeching exp in Abyssea was illegal, which is absolutely hilarious. Botting may be illegal within the confines of FFXI's rules, but extending that to include bad sportsmanship or leeching exp is just trolling at its finest. I wish I had Starcade's gift for this sort of thing.

[Ilax]

Quite true. The context in particular I was pointing out was his saying that leeching exp in Abyssea was illegal, which is absolutely hilarious. Botting may be illegal within the confines of FFXI's rules, but extending that to include bad sportsmanship or leeching exp is just trolling at its finest. I wish I had Starcade's gift for this sort of thing.

Seriously yes, just wow Starcade. now is at the point where is totally absurd. If you really have something to report, seriously make a favor to everyone and create thread for the STF, if you call every unskilled player a cheater then i wish a MOD come here and remove all your post, to me is very inflammatory (I am already surprise none did it already) As far we can agree with you about cheating in the game and some frustrating action from many group, i doubt is appropriate to put everyone in the same boat.

Your action to keep this going imo is on purpose to troll everyone in your fabulation.

[rog]

People are entitled to their opinion dude lol. Yes, this is has taken away from people who like 6-man. On the flip side, you are saying "I like my fast exp, those of you who don't, tough luck." It's the same argument that you are complaining that she is making except from the opposite point of view.

No, i don't care how you play. If you want to exp outside of abyssea, then feel free to do so. it doesn't bother me one bit.

Oh, but you can't find anyone else willing to exp outside abyssea? Well that means that every other person thinks abyssea is a better place to exp at. In which case you want force every single other person to do something they don't want to, just to accommodate 1~ people? Don't you think that's just a little selfish?

[Fiarlia]

The logic that he's using is the exact same logic I'm applying when I'm saying that he must be Wizzbot.

He says that nobody (not leaving any sort of leeway for anyone... even PS2/360 users who, while it may be possible, would have one hell of a hard time being able to cheat in this game. Anyone who claims they don't cheat is, by his logic, hiding the fact that do in fact cheat.

Since he's the absolutely most outspoken anti-cheat poster in existence, anywhere... well, his logic dictates that it's obviously because he not only cheats like crazy, but he creates those cheats and distributes them.

Also, rofllegality.

[Madmax]

Only fix I'd like to see is characters being ejected from abyssea for inactivity for more than 20 minutes, like the auto-logout feature. One thing I hate more than anything is seeing a level 75+ player come into an Abyssea party and them going perma afk hoping that no one will notice. These are the people that if I have party lead get kicked after 10 minutes and I won't invite them to a party again. The true "leeches". At least a key man is busting ass and using their own cruor to do a job. Where a "leech" is someone that just stands there, does nothing, and reaps all the rewards. That is true failure.

[Cream_Soda]

Only fix I'd like to see is characters being ejected from abyssea for inactivity for more than 20 minutes,

This is a horrible idea.

I like being able to take a nap wake up and kill some more NMs when I'm sitting on 1000+ minutes.