Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Naturebeckles]

I would suggest an immediate demand for investigation of my account by the GM's and STF if you truly believe that.

But I've said it for over two years now: Why WOULDN'T one believe that any given player would attempt to compromise fair play?

That's why I get so pissed at the jackalopes and botters and slime: No player can state themselves legitimate and not have people such as these challenge it -- so I dare you to actually challenge it and attempt to have me removed from FFXI.

Maybe you should stick to talking about Chris Brown. lol

[Fiarlia]

I would suggest an immediate demand for investigation of my account by the GM's and STF if you truly believe that.

But I've said it for over two years now: Why WOULDN'T one believe that any given player would attempt to compromise fair play?

That's why I get so pissed at the jackalopes and botters and slime: No player can state themselves legitimate and not have people such as these challenge it -- so I dare you to actually challenge it and attempt to have me removed from FFXI.

If you're smart enough to make the bots that you did, then you probably have covered your tracks fairly well. Or made sure to not use them in a manner that would get you discovered. Or have some sort of excuse lined up (like all these posts, it's obvious you're trying to create your own alibi or at least evidence to the contrary).

Besides, I don't have enough evidence to initiate something like that. Your attitude, posts and actions make it fairly obvious, yet I doubt the STF would actually do an investigation based on that.

It's kinda like Arthur Leigh Allen, everyone involved pretty much knew he was the Zodiac, but there never enough information to convict him... I'm not even sure if he was ever even arrested.

[HFX7686]

It's not simply because of Abyssea, though -- it's because some of these players have no business in FFXI in the first place.

As far as Chris Brown goes, even recognizing he has talent is more than he deserves at this point -- and that's not unlike a lot of the aforementioned people in FFXI.

If their accounts are paid for then they have business to be in FF11.

I'm not sure how anyone can deserve or not deserve to play FF11. You either pay for it or you don't pay for it. Deserve doesn't really come into the picture.

[Kjara]

while a 3rd thread is unnecessary I do believe abyssea level requirement should be raised for various reasons.
first and foremost for the exp parties. People who have a job above 30 will refuse to join an exp party that isn't in abyssea, and this will cause any player who doesn't want to burn their job to get stuck in qufim island or kazham (because all the other ppl partying will be under 30 as they can't go in abyssea).
on second place, less exp parties hurt the economy. I'm on Siren and the crystals here raised to awful prices because with less exp parties, crystals are more rare (not all crafters want to go farm their clusters).
More pricey crystals means more expensive consumable items (10k for a stack of shihei), and less mid-level gear (because the crafters can't sell them anymore at a worthy price and rate, as key-whores will skip that armor to wear cruor armor when they hit 78).
So yeah, please raise the level required to access abyssea for the sake of all those who like to exp a job in a party and learn how it works, instead of trading keys to a chest for hours and hours.

[Xilk]

If you're smart enough to make the bots that you did, then you probably have covered your tracks fairly well. Or made sure to not use them in a manner that would get you discovered. Or have some sort of excuse lined up (like all these posts, it's obvious you're trying to create your own alibi or at least evidence to the contrary).

Besides, I don't have enough evidence to initiate something like that. Your attitude, posts and actions make it fairly obvious, yet I doubt the STF would actually do an investigation based on that.

It's kinda like Arthur Leigh Allen, everyone involved pretty much knew he was the Zodiac, but there never enough information to convict him... I'm not even sure if he was ever even arrested.

Wow this is a remarkably useless and low accusation. I'm impressed by the daring to say such a thing w/out expecting to be laughed into shame... then again, this is the internet.

[rog]

while a 3rd thread is unnecessary I do believe abyssea level requirement should be raised for various reasons.
first and foremost for the exp parties. People who have a job above 30 will refuse to join an exp party that isn't in abyssea, and this will cause any player who doesn't want to burn their job to get stuck in qufim island or kazham (because all the other ppl partying will be under 30 as they can't go in abyssea).
on second place, less exp parties hurt the economy. I'm on Siren and the crystals here raised to awful prices because with less exp parties, crystals are more rare (not all crafters want to go farm their clusters).
More pricey crystals means more expensive consumable items (10k for a stack of shihei), and less mid-level gear (because the crafters can't sell them anymore at a worthy price and rate, as key-whores will skip that armor to wear cruor armor when they hit 78).
So yeah, please raise the level required to access abyssea for the sake of all those who like to exp a job in a party and learn how it works, instead of trading keys to a chest for hours and hours.

tl;dr: you don't like it, so you want to force everyone to play with you.

[Starcade]

Wow this is a remarkably useless and low accusation. I'm impressed by the daring to say such a thing w/out expecting to be laughed into shame... then again, this is the internet.

And to consider how many of Fiarlia's friends probably cheat like Hell (I'll leave it at a "probably"...)...

The thing is, people don't get what I've been trying to say for over two years now:

There is no legitimacy in FFXI with the present player-base. Fraud is rampant, all over the game, both on the part of the players and the part of Square-Enix.

Why wouldn't someone who badly needs people like me to STFU and GO AWAY make that kind of an accusation?

But to get back to the thread, this is one of the reasons why you have a bunch of AFK leeches who will sap up all the XP until they get caught, because they had no desire to legitimately play the game at all.

Remember: A lot of the people who got banned are many of the biggest heroes in the community -- and the illegal conduct is part of that (positive) reputation.

[Starcade]

tl;dr: you don't like it, so you want to force everyone to play with you.

No. In fact, one has to wonder if one would be a stickler (like me) that one would have to question the legality of a certain amount of this leeching.

[Greatguardian]

legality

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[rog]

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Actually it does, but he's an idiot anyway.