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  1. #11
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Shiva
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    You can buy your spells for every job except blu. As long as you know how to use them, you're fine.

    BLU is a unique case- if you burn the job to 90 you're going to suck because you're going to have to spend days to weeks going all over kingdom come to get your spells.
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  2. #12
    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Leveling was never content.

    I sincerely feel sorry that some players have never had the opportunity to experience real FFXI content beyond EXP.

    I'm not saying that to belittle anyone. I'm saying that because it was a legitimate problem with a lot of old Endgame content. It was simply too inaccessible to a large number of people. When people were unable to participate in real content, the only thing they were able to do and consider content in FFXI was EXP.

    If people feel they are lacking in content, and this would not be surprising if the only content they had experienced was Abyssea and EXP, I highly recommend just going back through old content with friends. Old content is easier now, yes, but that's the point. You can do solo or in small groups what would have taken a linkshell coordinated event or a high-end player to do in the past.

    Do Dynamis, CoP and Neo. Do Limbus, do Sea Jailers (if you have the patience). Do Sky, do ZNMs, do Assaults to Captain Rank. Do Nyzul Isle, Salvage, and Einherjar. Hunt down Dark Ixion and Sandworm. Kill Cerberus, Khimaira, and Hydra. Tackle KS99s, KS30s, and the new Kindred Crest BCs. Try ANNMs, Campaign Ops, VNMs. Level Synergy.

    There are things to do. Sure, quite a few are things more experienced players have been doing for years. Others just plain don't have cool rewards. But all of them are more rewarding and diverse content than EXP.
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  3. #13
    Player Khajit's Avatar
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    Khajit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You can buy your spells for every job except blu. As long as you know how to use them, you're fine.

    BLU is a unique case- if you burn the job to 90 you're going to suck because you're going to have to spend days to weeks going all over kingdom come to get your spells.
    My friend got all of his important spells and nearly capped blu skill within 1~2 weeks of on and off farming. Blu is no exception to the fact that if you have a functioning brain you aren't hurt by burning the job to 90.
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  4. #14
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    I think that SE should add WoW like quests. you can't even call them WoW like quests. almost all MMOs now have quest mechanics like this. it gives you something to do as well as bits of story. there could be solo, group, casual, and hardcore content.

    leveling is fun but XI right now is an endgame MMO. in games like WoW you have something to do at any level. in XI it feels that you have to be max level to really do anything. also if you have a max level job people will tell you to go solo it which is kind of dumb when you think how XI was built around grouping. well those are my two cents on the issue.

    even if all my jobs are maxed I'm much more likely to stay on if there's content to do.
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  5. #15
    Player CrAZYVIC's Avatar
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    Crazyvic
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    SAM Lv 99
    Grounds of valor is giving me all i was wanting for years. A way for lv up fast and you can do it solo or duo or trio.

    Im enjoying a lot lv up my dancer and soon i will take war lv 90 too. Before grounds of valor, take 1 job lv 75 in a legit way taked 4 - 6 weeks of intense grind 4 - 6 hours per day. With grounds of valor in 1 week is possible get 1 job lv 75, playing casual ^^.

    I think im running out of cotend in end game sadly. I wish they add more Einherjar style battle fields and like Dynamis cop areas, only in limbus, einherjar and dynamis i can do all the damage i want with my jobs, without hold and i can test my skills with my awesome LS mates.

    Personaly the only thing i enjoy abbysea is solo NM, and do duo / trio Tp burn parties of 90 mins with close friends. I dont like the proc system abbysea, and i dont like use my DD jobs in abbysea party, usually i go as BLM always abbysea party, so i dont have hold and i can use that in all the potential.

    I love my LS, because they dont use abbysea only mentality, we still playing all events and i enjoy a lot that (everyone enjoy the game in a diferent way). I hope at lv 99 SE, add more einherjar battle frields with a lot of mobs and a mega boss.
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  6. #16
    Player Ravenmore's Avatar
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    Ravenns
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    BLU Lv 99
    Before abyssea I went from 55 to 75 blu getting one invite 65 that went to shit and never got going so I in fact losed exp. No one wanted mp user's blm were the same. All the old caontent is there go do it. Leveling is not content never was, just a speed bump to get you to play longer. Till abyssea every other new MMO had a much faster leveling exp compared to FF11. Ever ask your self why WoW had so many players and 11 barely broke half a mil. Games die when all the content outside of level is for the hardcore. Really go look up reviews for FF11 and blogs about those that tried it a left soon after. While most of the player base sees X-play as the sh*t hole it is more people end up dranking thier koolaid.
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  7. #17
    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    even if all my jobs are maxed I'm much more likely to stay on if there's content to do.
    This is true for many of us but a large portion do very little else except the basics of the game, they never do any events or engame at all.

    Also there is a feeling that comes over you when you've capped all your jobs and merits and it really is a game killer, you can have other stuff to do but it's like you are coming to the end of the line and it's hard to shake when you get that feeling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    This is true for many of us but a large portion do very little else except the basics of the game, they never do any events or engame at all.

    Also there is a feeling that comes over you when you've capped all your jobs and merits and it really is a game killer, you can have other stuff to do but it's like you are coming to the end of the line and it's hard to shake when you get that feeling.
    yeah and I'm feeling there. not cause all my jobs are capped it's because of the grouping thing. all I really want to do is beat the main storylines of the game. nation, expansions, add ons. what sucks though is ether I can't get people to do it or I'm told to level another job. that doesn't take as long as it use to but it's still a buzz kill
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  9. #19
    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    None of that content should require any sort of specific jobs to win with. We're 15 levels stronger than we were at 75, that means a whole lot. I would try some things solo first, just for the experience, then try them duo and work your way up until you have something that works.

    Wiki has some decent information, but never, ever take its testimonials at face value. Every bunny sounds like an ogre, the way people talk about them there.
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  10. #20
    Player MarkovChain's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Are there any plans to do something about leveling? Maybe adding tier 2 jobs (as in enhanced versions of jobs you can only level if you have the basic one at 90) to re-level or something else like a tree system?

    It's really easy now to cap out on the jobs you want to level, especially if you enter abyssea at level 30. Since leveling is the major thing in any MMO the ease with which people are capping these is a major concern for a MMO's lifespan.
    Sorry but the reason abyssea was introduced is that leveling jobs is boring. I don't think introducing new jobs nor new job system is going to do anything good since as only +15 level introduced MAJORS game imbalance (at 75 6 jobs didn't suck, now 3 only, at 99 you will probaly have the good old 6 top #1 WHM BLM RDM THF MNK WAR in that order). Leveling jobs is good for newcomers, people with more than a few months of game play should play the content to it's maximum like relic/empyrean/missions etc.
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