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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearforever View Post
    Back when i started playing the game i choose taru because of the looks, i liked it.

    I didn't know anything about tarus lack of HP untill it was too late, there is very little infomation on the character creation screen, it does list HP/MP but it doesnt stand out at all.

    why should I be punished with over 400-600 HP LESS than a Galka inside abyssea when a Galka WHM only has 100-250MP LESS than a taru... is that fair? No.
    100-250 MP Less? You're full of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldbrand View Post
    No. Homogeny is the worst kind of design. I'm not looking to play World of Warcraft and it's 5% difference between roles crap.

    WoW uses healing spells , we should just get rid of those too. You know...because WoW sucks and we shouldn't ever have anything like them.


    (they are also not the first MMO to try and balance racial classes, hi2u EQ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearforever View Post
    Back when i started playing the game i choose taru because of the looks, i liked it.

    I didn't know anything about tarus lack of HP untill it was too late, there is very little information on the character creation screen, it does list HP/MP but it doesnt stand out at all.

    why should I be punished with over 400-600 HP LESS than a Galka inside abyssea when a Galka WHM only has 100-250MP LESS than a taru... is that fair? No.
    That's not really a good excuse there were tons of guides out there before FFXI even came out in the US, about the races pros and cons. For example importer sites like FFXIonline.com had detailed guides about the races and jobs.

    Basically your saying that race should just be for looks and have very little to do with stats like they did on FFXIV? SE could change it but then picking a race would be irrelevant if everyone had the exact same stats and hp/mp values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    That's not really a good excuse there were tons of guides out there before FFXI even came out in the US, about the races pros and cons.
    which is what caused a ton of manthras out there because brady guide made it sound like if you wanted to be a thief you HAD to be a mithra. Just because there were guides, doesn't mean those guides were good, and that a decision made 9 years ago has to be the same forever.

    Basically your saying that race should just be for looks and have very little to do with stats like they did on FFXIV? SE could change it but then picking a race would be irrelevant if everyone had the exact same stats and hp/mp values.
    I actually see nothing wrong with this. When I tried FFXIV the ratio of different races seemed to be about the same as FFXI (but oddly enough a little more galka).


    I actually think what they could do if they refuse to allow a race change option, then they could add merits to "balance" the races.

    ie. taru can put an extra 20 merits into hp to be at the same place as galk hp. Galka can put w/e extra mp merits it is to have the same amount as tarus. Do this for all races, so at least it's something they have to work for.


    I would also not mind the race change option (I love my model, but again I know lots who picked their model 9 years ago based on lolbrady guide, and should have the option to change if they want to).
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    Last edited by Romanova; 06-04-2011 at 04:31 AM.
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    brady guide might of been bad, however there were plenty of guides on the internet created by import players that were actually good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    brady guide might of been bad, however there were plenty of guides on the internet created by import players that were actually good.
    when the game first came out most people were still using dial up. Only reason I was even able to try ffxi in the first place was because I had a ps2 (my comp would never had been able to handle it).

    Access to information was way different back then then it is now. Only guide I remember back when it first came out that was actually in English was mysterytour. And then not everything was translated, or it was hard to understand. then when somepage.com came out it was a godsend. (still miss that site, don't go there though it's full of viruses).


    Take a moment and really think about what you're saying. Is it really the end of the world if people after 9 years want to change? really? Is it really going to break the game if they balance out the races? I don't see the harm in it whatsoever.


    Also, even remotely thinking that guides back during release knew what we know now would be insane, ontop of the glaring fact as mentioned in this thread those guides obviously didn't take into account abyssea or lvl 90s.


    [edit] nor let's not forget for example someone when first starting the game wanted to be a blm so rolled a taru and played it for 7+ years, then decide they want to do something new and be a pld or nin and never getting to use it because they rolled a taru 7 years ago.
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    Last edited by Romanova; 06-04-2011 at 04:48 AM.
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  7. #57
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    I live in the UK and FFXI had ZERO advertisements or guides out over here for at least 1 year after EU release, so when i started I knew nothing and there was no help around because I didn't know about any US fansites.

    choosing a race shouldn't be all about stats and HP it should be about general looks, since everyone perfers different chars.

    I'd like for the gap to be closed up abit, like an earlier poster said there is a 100HP~ difference between Mithra/Hume/Elvaan/Galka yet a taru has twice that gap between the races
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fearforever View Post
    tarus NEED more base hitpoints on the climb to 99 or anything worth doing would likely kill off a taru tank in 1-2 shots.

    Or put another way, anything that wouldn't 2-shot a Taru would be completely trivial for a Galka, so either the game is balanced to be an impossible meat-grinder for Tarus or to allow Galkas to go on autopilot. What's it gonna be?
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    With how easy it is to lvl and gear a character with abyssea you would think instead of just complaining about current races stats people would just lvl a mule with w/e race they wanted to be it costs a dollar.

    Originally SE invisioned people having one job per character and because the player base decided to not go that way due to the difficulty at the time it lead to many other problems down the road like current inventory issues.

    Instead of asking constantly for changes to racial stats on these forums take one day and lvl the job you want with the race you want, being able to send your mules seals you could start collecting all the ones you need for your new character.

    This way everyone doesnt look exactly the same with the same capabilitys, each race has its own strong points and weakness's and should be used to the playerbases advantage not frowned upon because people can't bother to gear correctly to survive.

    Doing crazy damage is nice and all but if your lying on the floor dead your not doing things right, because your damage is all you care about. That five minutes being weakened takes way more from your dmg then using a PDT set or MDT set.
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    Actually, I think Hume got the short end of the stick there.

    I mean, look at the other races. They excel at something, usually 2 things.

    Hume? Just CHR....who cares about CHR? BST to charm anything? BRD to sing songs? CHR has become one of the most useless stats in this game, and that is the ONLY thing Humes are good for.....
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