Do Japanese have a problem with us?

[Starcade]

xenophobia is a large componant of japanese history and culture, deal with it
and most of NAs being morons on game doesnt help much either

A bit less elegant way of putting it, but, there you go....

[Greatguardian]

Holy crap, you know absolutely nothing about contemporary world cultures. Way to go.

[rog]

That would be valid if the parties involved deserved such respect.

There's two factors involved, and at least one of them is conduct which is probably greatly excused by the poster I slammed in say that he wouldn't understand (and that there was no point explaining it to him).

1) is a feature of Japanese culture in which outsiders ("gaijin") are scorned. The Japanese honor social order on a very very high scale -- this is why many people are becoming shockingly disturbed at the Japanese's handling of the Fukushima disaster.

2) is the rampant (and, especially, unchecked) cheating which goes on at the US level. As I inferred earlier, "naming shame" -- bringing shame upon the _family_ of someone who has done something wrong in Japan -- has become a very real enforcement of social order. Bringing shame on your family is almost a lethal offense in Japan.

I have absolutely no problem with the Japanese wanting nothing to do with the US playerbase. I think they use the language barrier as a defense mechanism. The barrier is, and, IMHO should be, intentional.

Fyi, japan is pretty similar to the US in 2011. To an extent, what you said is true, but as the years go by, it is becoming less and less true.

edit: late, but to clarify, that is a very small extent. Japan has changed a lot in the last decades.

[Alhanelem]

Stop feeding the Starc- err, i mean, troll.

[Zatias]

lol @ Starcade. That is all.

[Zatias]

But you expect them to learn english?

It is easy to say you do not mind playing with japanese players, because 99 times out of 100, they will be the ones speaking in a second language, not you. Have you ever tried communicating complex ideas in a language you do not understand well, using vocabulary you never would have learned in school? It is not easy, and it is not fun. You take for granted that most japanese can understand at least basic english, but just because they can understand it does not mean they want to put the effort into doing so while they are trying to relax and play a game.

I can understand some basic japanese myself, but you will not see me trying to play with the japanese, unless they are the ones speaking english. Want to know why? Because even if i can understand what they say (i cannot always), it is not enjoyable trying to decipher moon runes that are scrolling through my chat log while trying to fight some big bad nm. It is hard work, and not enjoyable.

I never said I expected them to learn English, I merely said I don't like that we have to speak their language to be accepted XD at least by some Japanese. Please don't put words in my mouth :P

Edit: Also would like to point out some of my original post was thrown in there as a joke (such as "do they have a button that allows them to blacklist all English?") so don't think I am sitting here bashing Japanese when I'm not XD it's rude to ignore people in general, and that's what the main topic was.

[noodles355]

1) is a feature of Japanese culture in which outsiders ("gaijin") are scorned.

Just no. Stop posting.

[kingfury]

Just stumbled upon Googles Translate tool o.o Very cool, and from what it looks like very powerful in that you can plug in a full phrase or a sentence and also hear what it would sound like translated. Can anyone that speaks Japanese please confirm if this tool is accurate enough to hold conversations or not? I've updated the choppy translations I've found using the other translation site "Nihongodict.com" since I've found this one, and would like to know if it's legit. Thanks.

Google Translate

For example:
Plugging in "Can we take turns?" yields "Wareware ga kōtai suru koto wa dekimasu ka?" Is this correct?

[HFX7686]

That would be valid if the parties involved deserved such respect.

There's two factors involved, and at least one of them is conduct which is probably greatly excused by the poster I slammed in say that he wouldn't understand (and that there was no point explaining it to him).

1) is a feature of Japanese culture in which outsiders ("gaijin") are scorned. The Japanese honor social order on a very very high scale -- this is why many people are becoming shockingly disturbed at the Japanese's handling of the Fukushima disaster.

2) is the rampant (and, especially, unchecked) cheating which goes on at the US level. As I inferred earlier, "naming shame" -- bringing shame upon the _family_ of someone who has done something wrong in Japan -- has become a very real enforcement of social order. Bringing shame on your family is almost a lethal offense in Japan.

I have absolutely no problem with the Japanese wanting nothing to do with the US playerbase. I think they use the language barrier as a defense mechanism. The barrier is, and, IMHO should be, intentional.

I've been to Japan, as well as lived in various other parts of Asia. I never felt Japan was anything like what you are describing here. A lot of them were very friendly and welcoming to me and my American husband. Some of them were rude (not many, probably on the same ratio of rude North Americans). They're very modern and pretty Westernized. I think you have been watching far too much old anime.

[HFX7686]

Just stumbled upon Googles Translate tool o.o Very cool, and from what it looks like very powerful in that you can plug in a full phrase or sentence and also hear what it would sound like translated. Can anyone that speaks Japanese please confirm if this tool is accurate enough to hold conversations or not? I've updated the choppy translations I've found using the other translation site "Nihongodict.com" since I've found this one, and would like to know if it's legit. Thanks.

Google Translate

For example:
Plugging in "Can we take turns?" yields "Wareware ga kōtai suru koto wa dekimasu ka?" Is this correct?

You can use Google translate to translate web pages as well. It works with the Japanese parts of this forum.