ATTN: Dev/Comm. Rep -Relic & Mythic Weapons Reborn {Yes, Please}- レリックとミシックの強化

[Unctgtg]

I agree with you 100% Kiba.

[DrStrangelove]

Why did you expect it to happen on the 5/9 update when they never said they would. It takes time to test things and make sure they dont overpower something. The ageis-burtgang thing was a nice start that NO one expected.

I think you and others might be assuming that SE became aware that there was a problem in late March 2011. That would be false. I also think this needs to be reviewed in terms that an update has already happened and a new one is not planned for weeks.

These weapons were known to be drastically different at least as early September. There are dozens if not hundreds of posts to this effect on Alla, BG and other sites that made this clear. Moreover, I assume that many relic owners were posting email complaints to SE last year.

The announcement in March was the first public admission that they were aware of this. That it was posted without having already made significant headway on a plan to fix is now obvious. And having not made the correction on 5/9, it's reasonable that no change will occur before mid June at the earliest.

In short, there has a lot of time to make a change to this issue and the lack of a mere update or time schedule makes it appear there is no imminent solution or being repeatedly replaced by newer projects.

Let's hope we are wrong and that we'll see it is planned to be part of the June update.

[Bumbeen]

While I do agree they could throw us a bone about some time frames. I think it's pretty obvious they are working on it. I also think it's going to take longer than many posting here are thinking.

[Unctgtg]

While I do agree they could throw us a bone about some time frames. I think it's pretty obvious they are working on it. I also think it's going to take longer than many posting here are thinking.

Or completely ignoring us and hoping we will go away. I am standing firm with my 18 months of my life I did to get my Apoc, and another 6 months doing the REAL 9500 Mobs for the trials, before the changed it.

[Akujima]

If they have different stats they cannot be equally powerful, and you are the only one who does not care about being good. I will illustrate my point by using your example of 'all the NINs with Kannagi' Thats right, they all have Kannagi, not kikoku or the thing thats so useless I don't even bother to remember the name, they have Kannagi, because Kannagi is good, and the other 2 are bad. No matter how small the difference between them, one will mathematically beat the others, and that will be the one people try to get. Then we will see more complaints by you worded slightly differently expressing the same problem. You need to just get over it, and deal with the fact that people like being good and useful more then they like being special little flowers.

No, duh? People know this $#!% already. Why do you think they're making threads like these and asking for adjustments to Relic/Mythic? The idea here IS to make them balanced. You're just spewing stuff people already know and acting like you're smarter than everyone else, because you think they don't know anything.

Why the hell would I make an "Improve Sange, Improve Throwing" thread, if I already thought Throwing and Sange was good?


Ohh, uhh, errmmm. Yea, you can't answer that last question, because its irrefutable. So take a seat.

[Kiba]

I think you and others might be assuming that SE became aware that there was a problem in late March 2011. That would be false. I also think this needs to be reviewed in terms that an update has already happened and a new one is not planned for weeks.

These weapons were known to be drastically different at least as early September. There are dozens if not hundreds of posts to this effect on Alla, BG and other sites that made this clear. Moreover, I assume that many relic owners were posting email complaints to SE last year.

The announcement in March was the first public admission that they were aware of this. That it was posted without having already made significant headway on a plan to fix is now obvious. And having not made the correction on 5/9, it's reasonable that no change will occur before mid June at the earliest.

In short, there has a lot of time to make a change to this issue and the lack of a mere update or time schedule makes it appear there is no imminent solution or being repeatedly replaced by newer projects.

Let's hope we are wrong and that we'll see it is planned to be part of the June update.

I agree from what you saying that it is factual that the issue was known for a long time. I remember before forums were up it was also raised up from both EN/JP players on Twitter. I just think its wrong to recognize an issue and put it behind things implemented. Like I said previously fixes should be immediate and addressed during short term maintenances.

[Bumbeen]

They aren't going to even the difficulty of relics and mythics to be the same as emp. If you read the post it says relics and mythics difficulty to obtain will be balanced, emp was not mentioned. It is likely then that their intention is to buff relic and mythic to be stronger than emp and either make mythic easier to obtain or relic more difficult(of course if they succeed is a different story). I would personally prefer them to make mythic easier to obtain. I am currently working on spharai, so I hope they do not make relics more difficult.

I think I can see how the post might have read they are going to even out relic mythic and emp.

Along with that, we are also planning to make adjustments to both the time and cost required to create and strengthen Relic and Mythic weapons. Eventually, we would like to even out the differences in the amount of time required to create and strengthen these weapons.

Do you think "weapons", the last word in the quote, is referring to Relic and Mythic and empyrean? Or just Relic and Mythic. The sentence prior says adjustments to time and cost required .... relic and mythic, so that would lead you to believe relic and mythic only. I wish they would clarify as I would hate to trade a 10,000 piece and then a week later you only need 1000.

[Secondplanet]

i personally don't understand why players who have relic's want them updated, RPG's were formed on the basis that you get the best and over the next level's you have to get the best again, but that is just my opinion.

What i'm going at is the fact that SE knows there is a large and sometimes gaining in number of issues they need to work out to fix the game and bring balance back to the force.... erm.... i mean FF:XI. I think the rushed the level caps at a rate that was too fast for them to compensate between caps. While some jobs have become legends in their own others get the cold shoulder in the name of balance.

I personally don't see SE making relic's/mythic's the best anymore since they were made for old content but i do see them allowing you to upgrade their powers to be on par with newer gear. I don't want to start any fights/arguments but this is how i see SE is walking at the moment.

[Atomic_Skull]

i personally don't understand why players who have relic's want them updated

I think it has something to do with Relics and Mythics taking years to upgrade while Empyreans take a week or less.

[Unctgtg]

I think it has something to do with Relics and Mythics taking years to upgrade while Empyreans take a week or less.

Agreed, and actually get a good group and you can do them in a two days now that is emp.