Raise the Minimum Requirement for entering Abyssea to Lv70 or 75

[HFX7686]

@Panthera: I've no idea why you continue to debate against these people. The only reason they're still here, is because they need to defend they're own moralistic viewpoint and criticize ours. You are calling them out for "cheating" so they need to defend that it is not, to save themselves from feeling guilty. The moment you started to elaborate on "leeching as cheating" the argument turned in the opposite direction. At this point, they probably just view you as a religious preacher, trying to explain and uphold commandments such as "thou shall not cheat".

Your posts are strong. That's the only reason this thread has lasted so long. But when you break down the walls too far, people feel insecure about being out in the open. They will need to build those walls back up and target you as the enemy for trying to show them something they are not ready to see. They will not understand your intentions, and it will continue to be personal attack after personal attack, so save your self some dignity for at least trying.

Nothing good will come from the rest of this thread, so let the issue go and face the facts of reality. Stop allowing them to retaliate in a rude manner. You're giving them the opportunity to demean you and they're relishing in it. The thread tags only prove this to be true.

I only see you and Panthera being draconian while attempting to impose a play style on all other players, regardless as to what those players like and what SE has made available.

[Mrbeansman]

This minority that people speak of, is not as small as everyone thinks.

A minority is a minority no matter how small it is.

[Kimble]

Well if thats the case, you shouldnt be having any problems making low level parties out side of abyssea then should you?

[Alkalinehoe]

This minority that people speak of, is not as small as everyone thinks.

To reiterate, if you cannot find 1-5 people to exp with you out of a usual 2k+ server population, then you are in a small minority.

Edit: beaten!

[blowfin]

2. It would reinvigorate the AH/economy for crafters to make more low level equipment.

This argument is moot now anyway. At least on my server the Auction House is well stocked with low level gear, it's day and night compared to before the patch.

[Ravenmore]

Only ones that don't like leech are the same ones that were to lazy in the past to make thier own parties, all you got to do to leech.

[Aliekber]

I'll just leave this right here.

Edit: The above is a link, in case that wasn't clear.

[Myrrh]

Joined a pt of 6 for Exp? Cheating
Soloing mobs for Exp? Cheating
Made a mule to hold gear? Cheating
Used the Wiki? Cheating
Asked someone for advice? Cheating
Went Afk? Cheating
Changed gear while using a JA? Cheating
Started playing FFXI? Cheating
Zoned? Cheating
Warped? Cheating
Blood warped? Botting
Died? Cheating

[Chocobits]

Joined a pt of 6 for Exp? Cheating
Soloing mobs for Exp? Cheating
Made a mule to hold gear? Cheating
Used the Wiki? Cheating
Asked someone for advice? Cheating
Went Afk? Cheating
Changed gear while using a JA? Cheating
Started playing FFXI? Cheating
Zoned? Cheating
Warped? Cheating
Blood warped? Botting
Died? Cheating

Indeed. It sounds like we deserve a paddlin'.

"Talking out of turn... that's a paddlin'. Looking out the window... that's a paddlin'. Staring at my sandals... that's a paddlin'. Paddlin' the school canoe... you better believe that's a paddlin'."
-Jasper

[blowfin]

Indeed. It sounds like we deserve a paddlin'.

"Talking out of turn... that's a paddlin'. Looking out the window... that's a paddlin'. Staring at my sandals... that's a paddlin'. Paddlin' the school canoe... you better believe that's a paddlin'."
-Jasper

EXP chests are bad, m'kay?