Why Do You Loose Claim On Abyssea Mobs If Everyone Is Not Dead?

[rog]

They home point or leave the zone... It's not hard.

And if i do not want to leave the zone...?

Come on, i know you are not that stupid.

[svengalis]

No, the only two things that can unclaim a mob:

1) disengaging
2) attacking a different mob while not engaged.

You left out dying. My tank died and the mob went unclaimed. I tried to reclaim it but was beaten by another party close to us.

[Tamoa]

They home point or leave the zone... It's not hard.

Keeping claim isn't hard either.

You left out dying. My tank died and the mob went unclaimed. I tried to reclaim it but was beaten by another party close to us.

Actually he didn't, dying would equal disengaging according to another one of his posts.

[rog]

You left out dying. My tank died and the mob went unclaimed. I tried to reclaim it but was beaten by another party close to us.

No i did not. Dying causes you to disengage, which is why you lose claim. Same with zoning, as you would know if you read all of my posts.

[svengalis]

My linkshell will usually wait for a group to fully wipe before claiming an NM.

However, if it is blatantly obvious said group is just zombie-killing it with Apoc atma then we will claim as soon as yellow.

Tbh they should make the reraise effect from this atma and twilight gear only work if you're not weakened.

Why does it matter how someone chooses to kill a mob? It it isn't your pop and they don't give up you should leave it alone. Have some decency.

[svengalis]

I've never seen claim lost outside Aby on an NM with an active DoT/Debuff effect. I do remember there was something done to keep HNMLS from just kiting their NM until the rest of the shell showed up. but I thought that was the rage system, to kill the kiter, I don't recall anything about losing claim. Granted, I never had any interest in HNMLS-type play so I never looked into it that much other than to laugh at monopolizers getting their just deserts when the announcement was made.

It doesn't happen outside of Abyssea. You can't even claim with certain spells in Abyssea which also doesn't happen outside of Abyssea.

[svengalis]

And if i do not want to leave the zone...?

Come on, i know you are not that stupid.

Why would you continue to fight a mob you cannot kill?

[svengalis]

No i did not. Dying causes you to disengage, which is why you lose claim. Same with zoning, as you would know if you read all of my posts.

I am not responding to you anymore.

[Tamoa]

It doesn't happen outside of Abyssea. You can't even claim with certain spells in Abyssea which also doesn't happen outside of Abyssea.

Well that's a lot of bs, losing claim on a mob despite DoT/debuff being on it certainly does happen outside of abyssea. And pardon me for asking, but which spell(s) can't you claim with when in abyssea?

[rog]

It doesn't happen outside of Abyssea. You can't even claim with certain spells in Abyssea which also doesn't happen outside of Abyssea.

wat

Why would you continue to fight a mob you cannot kill?

You would not. You would disengage, and let someone else take it. Oh wait, that would not work anymore, since it would be impossible to unclaim a mob without dying. See the problem?