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  1. #21
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    To the guy who's talking about people being stupid for not being able to choose a set for the certain situation, that's the reason why people are mad. They have sets for every possible situation that they aren't able to use in Ballista because of the Stun effect. I personally don't like it as I feel gear swaps are essential to utilizing each job to it's fullest capabilities.

    I'm all for a way to get people playing Ballista again and removing the gear restriction will be one. They did it for Bolts and Arrows after Ballista was first introduced, why not just remove the system altogether.

    Side Note: Another set of server-wide JP, EU, NA and other countries Ballista Royales with the 4 winners competing in a tournament to crown the best team overall would raise a lot of interest in Ballista, if only for a short time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirrels View Post
    I'm all for a way to get people playing Ballista again and removing the gear restriction will be one. They did it for Bolts and Arrows after Ballista was first introduced, why not just remove the system altogether.
    If they removed that system, then everyone would be running around blinking in and out of gear, and it would be damn near impossible to target anyone.

    I realize to play a job to its potential requires gear swaps. But it just brings another level of challenge to PvP if you cant change gear mid-battle. It's not that people are "stupid" for not being able to change equipment, it just adds another strategy to the game, one that would require a non-conventional way of thinking.
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    I'm all for reviving Ballista. Nobody does it on my server. Everyone's too busy getting their crimson red tan in abyssea or getting dirty, ganking the new mobs down in the mines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wenceslao View Post
    Another Ballista Royale.....
    The best idea I've seen in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkai View Post
    The best idea I've seen in this thread.
    Really I know many player who enjoyed ballista will be more than willing to attend it, and new players could be lured by this event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
    If they removed that system, then everyone would be running around blinking in and out of gear, and it would be damn near impossible to target anyone.

    I realize to play a job to its potential requires gear swaps. But it just brings another level of challenge to PvP if you cant change gear mid-battle. It's not that people are "stupid" for not being able to change equipment, it just adds another strategy to the game, one that would require a non-conventional way of thinking.
    I never called anyone stupid for not being able to change gear. What strategy does it add to a balanced ballista(18 vs 18 spread of support/mages/dd) match? Wear full PDT/MDT so you can survive everything as a mage. Focus on acc/PDT/MDT as a DD. I'm generalizing here before you get your panties in a wad about stuff like Opo-Opo Necklace and other stuff.

    There's no "strategy" in choosing which set to fulltime, it goes by your job and how the match is progressing. Nothing less, nothing more. Does your job generally have acc problems? Gear for Acc. Does your job have survivability problems? Gear for PDT/DEF/MDT. You may have to go out and buy specific pieces that cover more areas than a single piece for the fact that you can't switch. Generally everyone who plays(or atleast played from 03-07) Ballista with regularity will have the same 2~3 gear sets they use throughout the match depending on how it's going.

    In closing, the guy who said to remove the effect of stun to gear swapping and changing it to a short time bind(that gets increasingly longer the more you change your gear before it wears off), to prevent people from swapping gear to run away and not be targeted, is probably the best way(opinion here)to go about changing the system.
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    I honestly think the best way to revive Pvp is to make a new centralized area in a major hub. Whitegate makes the most sense. Do away with the "pit" area, and make it a coliseum. A place where you can PvP or just go to watch/bet on the outcome of 1v1, 3v3, and 6 on 6 matches. The current format of ballista with the annoying wait times, and capped blah blah blah is aggravating. Make this uncapped with the afore mentioned 3 sec stun on gear swaps. Brenner doesn't offer the option for random ppl to come watch because it is instanced. The coliseum plan allows for the best option imo.

    Rewards of town gear models, costumes, furnishings etc. only acquired thru PvP would be perfect. The game needs this addition. What ever resources devoted to the development of this concept would continue to pay dividends far into the future. Not only with the same content being reused again, and again gladly, but it would go a long way toward retention of accounts. When players get burnt on the grind of gearing out jobs, and end game this would always be there as an alternative. Duking it out in a public setting with bragging rights on the line just never gets old
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    I've been watching some videos on youtube of players who used to Ballista all the time back in 2007. It looks like alot of them were having fun with it. I don't think it would be a waste of time to implement a more expansive reward and gameplay system to PvP. There's so many jobs with so many different abilities and possibilities with job/subjobs, PvP would become a major hit.

    But if the Dev's just change 1 thing about PvP, let it be the time constraints. It's really ridiculous to get a match going, considering how long it takes. Just give PvP more accessibility at least.

    And I still think adding all those things I mentioned, wouldn't hurt at all.
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    Last edited by Akujima; 05-16-2011 at 09:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaknafein View Post
    I honestly think the best way to revive Pvp is to make a new centralized area in a major hub.
    You mean like Diorama - Abdhaljs Ghelsba or Diorama - Purgonorgo, which are respectively in Ru'Lude Gardens and Upper Jeuno, both a short hop from the densely populated Port Jeuno?
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    Last edited by Volkai; 05-16-2011 at 11:10 PM. Reason: diorama-purgonorgo is in upper jeuno
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    I'd really like another shot at Ballista Royale. Galka BRD is OP.

    Seriously though, any support for Ballista would be welcome. Impossible to find enough people to start a match on my server.
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