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so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

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Originally Posted by hordecore

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

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Try logging into the real world once and a while.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapc...pt=T1&iref=BN1

If not being able to play FFXI is the worst thing that happens to you for the next week you are lucky. Try to get some empathy and basic human compassion you tool.

I wish Square would of updated pol for something this important, just a little message about whats happening and why the servers are down. Some may of missed the ingame announcement or not read forums.

Um. http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/pol...ews20541.shtml Hi.

Understand that if they weren't turning the servers off for a week that your playtime would be limited to whenever they had power during the rolling blackouts. I think you would have found being kicked off the servers over and over to be more frustrating.

Dear thread starter

Japan is currently not producing enough power. In order to keep important facilities and services operational, people and businesses are asked to reduce their energy consumption until they can get get the electrical grid up and running as normally, as well as negotiate energy import deals with neighbouring countries until their nuclear reactors are working again.

The three-day delay isn't hard to understand. At the start of the disaster, they might not have known how hard it was going to hit them. They might have said to countries they're importing power from that "hey can be use some more, just for a few days?", and that was fine. Now that they know it'll take a while until they get their own systems working again, they want to conserve as much as they can.

In addition to that, there are things known as after-shakes. These, as the name implies, occur after the initial earthquake, and can deal a lot of damage to the buildings that were already pretty messed up by the first quake. These most likely worsened the situation that Japan already was in significantly.

I don't understand why this is hard to understand.

This break gives us all a good chance to look around and see what's happening on Earth. Game will be back, no reason to cry over it.

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Originally Posted by hordecore

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

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SE made the right decision. The energy is greatly needed to power hospitals and shelters. Losing a week or two of gameplay is a small price to pay.

I agree with the shutdown, that's power that can be rerouted to important services like hospitals...a week away from the game won't hurt us, and my thoughts and prayers go out to all the people in Japan who are being affected by this terrible disaster

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Originally Posted by Zyrs

Understand that if they weren't turning the servers off for a week that your playtime would be limited to whenever they had power during the rolling blackouts. I think you would have found being kicked off the servers over and over to be more frustrating.

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Also a very good point.

I'm surprised they didn't take the servers down sooner.

OP, you're a horrible human being.


Silver lining: all the people who were always short stones will have a weeks worth of stones when they come back.

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Originally Posted by hordecore

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

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I am reading this and especially this Quote by "Hordecore" and some of the responses that you have made here By Randwolf (respect) Mirage (Respect) to say Totally agree with the Action SE has made to shut down Sever for Humanitarian Reason's for the Calamity that has taken place in Japan and my Heart goes out to those Who have Suffered in this recent Earth Quake. "Hordecore" Im sure you are by now regretting your comment or was it for a reaction? well for what ever the reason there is more to Life then Game , Go out there and open your Eye's and take a look around at the out side world ;-)

I expected the shutdown right after the first desaster , to give us 3 days of gaming durin basically the worst desaster the country has faced is something i rather dont understand .
I think bout what would have happend if this hit another of the big nations , i think Japan is about the best prepared for such situations of any global player nation.
If this happend in the US or EU i think we could expect a downtime for a month easy (if it ever recovered)
As for stones collecting : servers are shut down , shouldnt continue to count stones on accounts and if u still would do gardening i think ur flowers wouldnt rott either XD

ps: i already went out , sun hurt my eyes , the wind felt strange on skin , i complained i want the AC to be turned off but no one replied , so i went to the ZOO to see a byakko to not feel alienated too much

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Originally Posted by bearfoot

As for stones collecting : servers are shut down , shouldnt continue to count stones on accounts and if u still would do gardening i think ur flowers wouldnt rott either XD

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Stones are collected by real time, not server time. When they bring the servers back up and reset the time you should have that number of stones on your character.

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Originally Posted by hordecore

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

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Dude your an idiot. The reason they are shutting down the servers is because their nuclear power plants are risking meltdown right now, people need electricity, and they can't have a bunch of servers sucking down a lot of power 24 seven as well as have in game support centers, etcetera. They have to do their part, and we have to do ours. Our part is finding something else to do with our time as we take (what is obviously something that you need) a break.

Do you know what's bull? The fact that you think you deserve to use Japanese electricity. The fact that you think your seals, or what ever it is you are doing, is more important than the Japanese having the electricity to make it through this week. Do you know what the biggest bull of it all is though?

That you never took a few minutes to read the stuff they put out last night, to find out what's really going on, before you started typing your greedy, selfish, uninformed, uncaring, and entirely irrational thoughts.

Please quit FFXI as soon as possible. I think I speak for a lot of people when I say that we don't need uncooperative toads like you in this MMO. You're getting a break from FFXI and a free month so that the Japanese can attempt to keep their lights on, their street lights running, their NUCLEAR power plants from overheating and possibly melting down, etcetera.

While you complain that you can't a computer/ps2 game called FFXI, they will be worrying if having their computer on for too long will mean that they will lose power in their fridges, in their t.v.s, their radios, etcetera. Japan's having a crisis, you're getting a week off.

Grow the hell up dude.

Depending on a lot of things this could last longer than a week, possibly a lot longer.

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

I'm surprised they didn't take the servers down sooner.

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If you follow the news from day 1 to now, they was under estimating the situation, also the problem with nuclear plan was still unsure, they lost control of 1 reactor that might end to melt down, and now another reactor is about to have same fate. I totally understand they huge need to save energy at this point. And i just pray that will not end in another nuclear disaster.

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Originally Posted by HFX7686

OP, you're a horrible human being.

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He is, he must be very ignorant and selfish. I just hope this 'free week of game' give him enough time to think about it. Also hope he will apologize of his ignorance and selfish person.

My sincere sympathy to japan

A friend suggested this last night:

Donate what you would have paid for April to a disaster relief fund. The Red Cross has been very prevalent, but there are quite a few places that are also offering relief. Or, you can wait until April 1 and do it then - they will need relief for more than just the immediate future.

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I was a sackholder in a Japanese HNM on Alexander. I know that quite a few of my friends are still safe. I don't know about some of them. Most of them have quit, but stay in touch. I haven't heard from a few since the earthquake happened. My friends that live in Japan that can contact people outside Japan (cell phone networks are wrecked, the internet is spotty at best, rolling blackouts make things hard, etc) are doing so and relaying information as they can.

Anyone - and I mean ANYONE - who complains about not being able to play the game should be immediately shipped to a disaster-stricken area and forced to help with the cleanup. I cannot BELIEVE - well, wait, I can, unfortunately, having played this game for years - that there are some people that are so narrow-minded as to think this will impact their lives on a bad way.

Go outside. Go to a library. Volunteer somewhere. Clean your room like you've been saying you'll do for a while. Go to class instead of skipping it for HNM camps. Call your loved ones. Be very, very, very happy that this did not happen where you live, and thank your lucky stars.

This is a REAL tragedy, one that will have ramifications for YEARS to come - not just in Japan but all over the globe.

Again - this is a natural disaster. "Disaster: a sudden calamitous event bringing great damage, loss, or destruction; broadly : a sudden or great misfortune or failure"

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Again:

Please consider donating even $10 via text message to the RC or a similar place. You already budgeted the money anyway - if every single person that played FFXI that wasn't Japanese donated, we could make a LOT of a difference - just think, your money could help some of those people that you've played alongside for years. (Many people seem to forget they are human beings as well, but not everyone, thank the gods.)

Sorry for the soapbox, and if you are the praying kind, or the kind of person to send good thoughts - please send them overseas for my friends - and everyone - that are missing. Thank you.

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Originally Posted by hordecore

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

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and so what little faith i had left in humanity dies with this post ...please go jump under a truck

yes im miffed i cant play but if the power saved makes even the slightest difference to the people of japan then it is all worth it

all the FFXI communitys (well most of us) thoughts and prayers are with you at this time.

i saw somewhere a post sugesting an in game item that could be brought with the proceeds going to help with the disaster make it happen SE

By all means. Let's tell them to bring the servers back up so YOU can play. This game was only made for YOU and YOU are the only person that matters in the game.

Seriously?

Since you now have some free time on your hands, I suggest you update yourself as to what is happening in the real world and not the virtual one you apparently have your only residence in.

The Japanese government made a request. SE is honoring that request. Most of us who have traits called "logic" have no problem with this.

It is now time for you to leave the confines of your basement.

wow, OP is a jerk, nuf said...

Maybe the OP is living in some Vault-Tech vault where the experiment is you don't have food and water access if you're not playing a game 24/7? Anyways be glad they have said that atm this is just for a week. Though I do personally doubt the electric shortages will mostly if not all be fixed after a week. SE is a company and know that they will be loosing money the longer the servers down and that those like myself who have a merge sometime down the line are having it pushed back even more now which for some causes some stress. So, yes the push back of the update and merge is a little annoying for some along with not being able to play; but I would rather have them take as much time needed to help out the power grid so that more important things can have the power they need. Along with SE knowing that there will be a higher chance of the servers not going down due to any black outs.
Oh and I would be 100% for an in game item that would be a sort of memorial type thing, that we could get to show our support. Especially for those who might not be able to donate money via other means at this time.

Atleast they're not being complete jerkfaces and putting out charges in April.

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Originally Posted by hordecore

so the earthquake hits japan Mar. 10, 2011 and after 3 days they decide to shutdown the server? this is bull

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Hell guy, they are in a difficult time now, there are more important things in live than Final Fantasy, if they are turning off the servers for a week, it is because the country has requested to keep electric power usage at minimun, playing a game is nothing important compared to other things they can use there with electricity, don't be a dumbass and try to get some emphaty to those there...

This topic is odviously one-sided, while i feel bad for the japanese part of me agrees with the OP.
If it were an american company and the gov "kindly asked" them to shut down power they would have told them to suck a rail-road spike were still getting paid.

This Thread should be locked and the thread starter banned.

I agree with the responses to this post. Being in emergency management, the most frustrating thing is trying to save and preserve life with inconsistent power sources! We all have lives outside the game. Use this time to get in touch with REAL life, go outside and thank your lucky stars that you can do this as an option, not because you have to.

My thoughts and prayers go out to the people of Japan and all those worldwide affected by the earthquake and it's tsunami.

That said, what a crock to shut down the game!!! Calamities happen every day somewhere, some more devastating to the local population than others. However, we are told over and over in their own publicity that SE is a global enterprise with major centers to serve their 3 main areas of gameplay: Japan, North America and Europe. So how about proving it and transfering game control to your servers either in the US or Europe and allowing your paying customers to continue on with their gaming lives. I seriously doubt the game would grind to a halt had this calamity occured in the west coast of the the US (earthquake or volcano). No, they would have put out some cute sympathy article and everyone not in the affected areas would continue on without interruption. Ever hear of mirror servers so backup sites can take over the workload should the main site be affected?

Will our monthly bill be reduced by 25% to compensate for this voluntary worldwide interruption of service, I doubt it as Final Fantasy customers outside Japan usually seem to be second class citizens. (ok didnt totally read SE notice b4 writing that part, my bad)

Fully agree with Square Enix's actions here.

Furisouls' respect for SE skill rises 0.5

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Originally Posted by myrla-elphaba

A friend suggested this last night:

Donate what you would have paid for April to a disaster relief fund. The Red Cross has been very prevalent, but there are quite a few places that are also offering relief. Or, you can wait until April 1 and do it then - they will need relief for more than just the immediate future.

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Good idea indeed.

Actually I think a US company could get in trouble law wise if the same thing happened on the west coast. Not sure what or how exactly but I'm sure it would be equal to whatever happen in the case you're burning a fire without a burn permit during a burn ban issued during a severe drought. Just that it would obviously be on a higher scale and maybe even more costly money wise

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Originally Posted by Gropitou

stuff

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Do you people not READ or something? They've already come right out and said that they will not be billing for April.

*Points to sig, if it shows*

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Originally Posted by Furisouls

Fully agree with Square Enix's actions here.

Furisouls' respect for SE skill rises 0.5



Good idea indeed.

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You know that is a damn good idea right there! I'd be in full support of this. =D

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Originally Posted by Koroma

This topic is odviously one-sided, while i feel bad for the japanese part of me agrees with the OP.
If it were an american company and the gov "kindly asked" them to shut down power they would have told them to suck a rail-road spike were still getting paid.

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The US can much more easily get access to power from other areas than Japan can. Japan is a small (in area) island nation who can't get power from other nations as easily as mainland nations. And for all we know, what they call "asked nicely to stop using power" in the official statements might have been something that was much more like a direct order from the government.

And you're still not taking into account that even if there was enough power to run the servers now and then, would you really want to play a game where you got DCed every half an hour because the SE servers lost power for a little while? This server park they've got might not boot back up and be ready to run in just a few seconds after complete power loss, after all.

It's not an issue of SE not being able to afford the power, it's an issue of there not being enough power in total to power the entire nation. It doesn't matter how much you tell the government to "stick it", you can't magically make electricity out of nowhere, and thus, you're going to get brownouts.

And yes, I do believe that if the US declared a state of emergency, they could take power from whoever they wanted to power hospitals and other critical infrastructure.

Solution for all you complaining about the servers going down. QUIT THE GAME! Honestly how are you going to complain about the servers being down for a week with what is going on over in Japan.

Slowly losing faith in humanity... >.>

The only thing were I agree with OP
3 days later shutting down. I really was surprised that I could log on.. and yesterday pissed at myself for going to bed instead of leveling some more.

I will miss the game, during the few free hours I will have this week, but I fully understand it.

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Originally Posted by Gropitou

Will our monthly bill be reduced by 25% to compensate for this voluntary worldwide interruption of service, I doubt it as Final Fantasy customers outside Japan usually seem to be second class citizens.

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Let me know when you feel like an ass. (Hint: read PoL's site for information about how we won't be charged April 1 for an entire month.)

Well mr. hordecore all i can say is "Open mouth insert foot" that is one of the most stupid comments ive ever seen , i really hope you are a kid 11-14 yrs old and dont truly understand what is goin on around you.After goin thru hurricane Katrina i know what its like to totally be without , i mean totally. I didnt even make the connection that we might have to give up the game for a bit , all i saw was devastation & my mind quickly went back to my experiences. Even after the initial shock i still didnt conn the two eathquake + Japan = loss of game.I play this game everyday & will miss it too but its not "MY WORLD" !!! Sounds like you need to go AFK for a bit. Go throw a football or frisbee hang w/ your family do something productive for a change. I know for me every night will be movie night w/ my kids not just "Saturday Night" movie night. They'll be happy so will I.

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Originally Posted by Lithera

Actually I think a US company could get in trouble law wise if the same thing happened on the west coast. Not sure what or how exactly but I'm sure it would be equal to whatever happen in the case you're burning a fire without a burn permit during a burn ban issued during a severe drought. Just that it would obviously be on a higher scale and maybe even more costly money wise

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During a state of emergency, individuals and companies rights are temporarily placed on hold to ensure the good of the general populace. Not only would a company that refused to follow emergency decrees face serious criminal penalties, the backlash from consumers who found that company's behavior self-serving would more than cause them to lose more revenue in the long-run.