More nerfs for War & Ukkos.

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Originally Posted by Xantavia

How did that DRK do a 5K WS? What kind of buffs did he have on himself and what debuffs were on the mob? If he is getting 5k everytime he hits 100tp solo, there might be a problem. But if this was a combination of Dia3 on the mob, beserk, last resort, souleater and whatever else can be stacked, that is a different story.

And what was the damage on the Ukyo's fury that followed so we have a comparison against the same mob?

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It's really irrelevant. WARs need pre nerf blood rage and all of that stuff you mentioned for 5K+ damage. DRKs would need Souleater and the same buffs/debuffs. The Ukko's was filtered but this is pre nerf anyway. If you want a full run down of that DRKs WSs you would have to ask him yourself. He claims 3-5k on all of his WSs which is along the lines of a current above average ukon user.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

I don't give a fuck. I am not Siiri and I am not trying to make her argument. Nothing in any of my posts says shit about 5k damage.

The difficulty in obtaining gear has not nor will it ever be key to the performance of the gear. Period. If you are trying to make that argument then you should be arguing that Mythics should outdamage Relics should outdamage Empyreans. It doesn't work that way.

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It doesn't matter what your justification for the nerf is. You are still missing the point completely which is really amazing. SEs "balance" justification is out the window as soon as other jobs start doing regular 3-5k WSs. That was the main point I was trying to make. You started arguing about something entirely different. I never said that because Ukon is quested it deserves to be stronger. I just said that if it's ok for a luck drop to do 5k then it would stand to reason that it should be ok for an Ultimate weapon to do 5k.

Once again. You need to just let the quested vs. luck weapon part of it go. It's an entirely different discussion and I only brought it up because it only makes it even more absurd.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

The difficulty in obtaining gear has not nor will it ever be key to the performance of the gear.

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No one made that argument.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

If you are trying to make that argument then you should be arguing that Mythics should outdamage Relics should outdamage Empyreans. It doesn't work that way.

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Most people agree that mythic weapons are harder than they should be. Moot point.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

I never said that because Ukon is quested it deserves to be stronger.

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It was definitely implied...(take note Frank)

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

Those WSs also came from a weapon he just lucked into. Not a weapon he put days/months of deliberate work into.

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WAR can't achieve the same thing with berserk, blood rage ect. that DRK can with souleater, last resort ect.? The only 'luck' part of the equation is the WS buff from the weapon. It isn't consistent enough to put DRK ahead of WAR.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

Most people agree that mythic weapons are harder than they should be. Moot point.

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Right, but that isn't actually the point. Do most people agree that because it's much harder or expensive to come by that it should surpass all other weapons? That's what Insaniac implied.

BRB making a Ragnarok

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Originally Posted by Scribble

It was definitely implied...(take note Frank)

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It was aside from the actual point that was being made, and your continuous focus on it implies that you know you are wrong and are attempting to make a straw man argument in hopes that the original point will be lost on someone.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

WAR can't achieve the same thing with berserk, blood rage ect. that DRK can with souleater, last resort ect.? The only 'luck' part of the equation is the WS buff from the weapon. It isn't consistent enough to put DRK ahead of WAR.

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It doesn't have to put it ahead of war. It just has to put it near War. War is broken remember? No job should be that powerful (your argument).

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Originally Posted by Scribble

Right, but that isn't actually the point. Do most people agree that because it's much harder or expensive to come by that it should surpass all other weapons? That's what Insaniac implied.

BRB making a Ragnarok

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No, you implied that Regardless of how hard a weapon is to achieve, that it should never be as powerful as Ukkon. He simply pointed out that if no weapon should ever be that powerful, then dropping them for free and not nerfing them as well is pretty friggin stupid. The problem here is that you think free weapons that are on par with Ukkon are ok, but Ukkon is OMFGWTF broken.

It was not implied and even if it was it doesn't matter. It's not relevant. For the record I do believe that a quested weapon should be more powerful than a "hey look what's in this box" weapon but there's already 1000 threads about buffing relics and mythics and the 3 crappy emp WSs. For the last time.. the only reason I brought it up is to further illustrate the lack of balance which it does in the context. There's no reason for you to try and counter with your silliness. The point is that while the uncommon 5k WS and 3k average WS from an Ukon was being nerfed for "balance" in the next cubicle over they were coding a weapon for DRK that can do the same thing. Please understand what I'm saying and move on.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

It was aside from the actual point that was being made, and your continuous focus on it implies that you know you are wrong and are attempting to make a straw man argument in hopes that the original point will be lost on someone.

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Not really. If it was aside the actual point then again, why did he even mention it.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

It doesn't have to put it ahead of war. It just has to put it near War. War is broken remember? No job should be that powerful (your argument).

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WAR isn't broken, Ukko's is. Specifically, the critical rate as TP increases. I don't have a problem with warrior being first on the parse, but apparently WARs have a problem with anyone else being close. I don't argue that no one should be as powerful as WAR, I argue that WAR overpowers the content. You were close :P

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

The problem here is that you think free weapons that are on par with Ukkon are ok, but Ukkon is OMFGWTF broken.

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lolfreeweapons

Borealis is not 'on par' with Ukon. I should also point out that a weapon that is tagged 'Occasionally deals severe weapon skill damage' should do just that. IIRC Ragnarok is better than Borealis, but it still isn't keeping up. I'd guess that the OAT or even Mercurial Sword would do pretty well, but they aren't beating Ukon. Still no reason to shed tears.

BRB meriting Resolution

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

It was not implied and even if it was it doesn't matter. It's not relevant. For the record I do believe that a quested weapon should be more powerful than a "hey look what's in this box" weapon but there's already 1000 threads about buffing relics and mythics and the 3 crappy emp WSs. For the last time.. the only reason I brought it up is to further illustrate the lack of balance which it does in the context. There's no reason for you to try and counter with your silliness. The point is that while the uncommon 5k WS and 3k average WS from an Ukon was being nerfed for "balance" in the next cubicle over they were coding a weapon for DRK that can do the same thing. Please understand what I'm saying and move on.

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The thing is I, and probably others, do not believe your statements about resolution. Why? Because of math. Resolution has a ftp of .75, and an attack penalty. You have no real data behind your assertion except 1 screenshot and a statement by someone who says he does 5k. Asking someone how much their weaponskill does is kind of like asking an old fisherman how big the fish he caught was. No one cares what someone "says" he does. THere are parses all over the places and if after the nerf Resolution, or much more likely Shoha, with a high ftp and an attack bonus of 40%, are doing crazy damage I guess they will be adjusted too. If you say resolution does its damage because of the "occasionally does severe damage" aspect of that weapon, I am sure that "occasionally" is much less than Ukko's post nerf crit rate. Again, Shoha with a TP bonus GK is going to math better than Resolution.

It was already proven people exaggerate. I asked what other ws has a crit rate like Ukko's and Brolic said thf. I just looked up evisceration and its crit according to BG is 10% at 100 and 40% at 300, so please show me where the thf crazy crit ws is.

Brolics THF comment was a joke. Sneak attack and all. Harhar

I would love more info on Borealis procs myself. I never came in here saying Borealis DRK outparses all Ukon WARs. They are not even my statements. I never acted like I had hard evidence of anything so I dunno what you are trying to discredit. All I have is a SS of a 5.3k Resolution followed by a 3.3k resolution and someone stating that his damage was in that range the entire fight. I never claimed anything more than that. One thing I will tell you for sure though is that an Ukon crit doesn't just automatically do 5k. If you think 40% of the time Ukko's does 5k+ damage you are out of your mind. The stars have to align for the average Ukon WAR to break 5k on top tier VW mobs. Both sides of any argument tend to exaggerate.

Once again the point was, "If WAR isn't allowed to do it then no one should be able to do it." Clearly that DRK did it and he did it with a weapon SE was creating while they were nerfing Ukko's.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

I never came in here saying Borealis DRK outparses all Ukon WARs. They are not even my statements. I never acted like I had hard evidence of anything so I dunno what you are trying to discredit.

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You did act like you had evidence because you posted the ss, but there is other damage in a parse outside just WS damage. Borealis DoT is not keeping up with Ukon and it doesn't have aftermath so I'm not even sure why you'd entertain that notion unless you're huffing something strong.

They should change the description on that weapon to 'Occasionally enhances epeen screenshots' because it isn't consistent and it isn't beating other options for DRK.

BRB still not beating Ukon with my Ragnarok

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Originally Posted by Scribble

You did act like you had evidence because you posted the ss, but there is other damage in a parse outside just WS damage. Borealis DoT is not keeping up with Ukon and it doesn't have aftermath so I'm not even sure why you'd entertain that notion unless you're huffing something strong.

They should change the description on that weapon to 'Occasionally enhances epeen screenshots' because it isn't consistent and it isn't beating other options for DRK.

BRB still not beating Ukon with my Ragnarok

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dot? what's that, when are you not popping wings?

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Originally Posted by Brolic

dot? what's that, when are you not popping wings?

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When wings are slowing your Damage down...

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Originally Posted by Taint2

When wings are slowing your Damage down...

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hahahahahh touche

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Originally Posted by Scribble

Not really. If it was aside the actual point then again, why did he even mention it.

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Here,
You say: "X weapon is broken. Its way too powerful. No weapon should ever be that powerful. It should be nerfed."

He says: "Y weapon can also put up numbers like that. There is no point in nerfing weapon X........................"

That was the point.

You responded: "yeah, but just because a weapon is hard to get doesn't mean it should be good."

This is where you completely ignored the point he was attempting to make, and then continued to pretend that you didn't get it because you knew he was right.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

WAR isn't broken, Ukko's is. Specifically, the critical rate as TP increases. I don't have a problem with warrior being first on the parse, but apparently WARs have a problem with anyone else being close. I don't argue that no one should be as powerful as WAR, I argue that WAR overpowers the content. You were close :P

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So it's ok for other jobs to have that kind of power, just not war. That's what I thought.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

Here,

So it's ok for other jobs to have that kind of power, just not war. That's what I thought.

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The actual weaponskill Ukko Fury will not have its potential adjustment, it still has the same strength mod and ftp. It now has a lower chance to crit. It will still see the 5k spike, the frequency is just going to be lower. So SE did not remove Ukko's ability to do 5k damage.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

So it's ok for other jobs to have that kind of power, just not war. That's what I thought.

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If you weren't stupid, you might actually understand that the other weapon DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER THAT UKON HAS!

Go away. You keep making yourself look stupid.

I responded to a point in his post about WAR being matched by DRK because of a weapon. It was incorrect, although he carried on like that screenshot was proof. He later started to include the '3-' suffix on the original 5k he stated. Now he probably realizes that the proc is something rarely seen and doesn't put Borealis on par with Ukon.

Why do you keep trying to hold his dick for him?

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Originally Posted by Scribble

You did act like you had evidence because you posted the ss, but there is other damage in a parse outside just WS damage.

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Actually the only thing I claimed as you can see below is that "Borealis is pumping out 3-5k WSs" which is the only thing I actually do have evidence of in the form of a SS of someone doing a 5.3k resolution followed by a 3.3k resolution. Anything else thatyou manage to imagineer out of that post is just you failing to understand what words mean.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

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Borealis is pumping out 3-5k resolutions. 5k WSs with a weapon you get as a lucky drop is ok but not with a weapon you spent days/months obtaining. Epic balancing.

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Originally Posted by Siiri

The actual weaponskill Ukko Fury will not have its potential adjustment, it still has the same strength mod and ftp. It now has a lower chance to crit. It will still see the 5k spike, the frequency is just going to be lower. So SE did not remove Ukko's ability to do 5k damage.

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They did actually lower it's potential, indirectly, by removing the crit damage bonus from Blood rage. Any 5k+ SS you see of Ukko's on a current top tier VW mob had BR up.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

If you weren't stupid, you might actually understand that the other weapon DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER THAT UKON HAS!

Go away. You keep making yourself look stupid.

I responded to a point in his post about WAR being matched by DRK because of a weapon. It was incorrect, although he carried on like that screenshot was proof. He later started to include the '3-' suffix on the original 5k he stated. Now he probably realizes that the proc is something rarely seen and doesn't put Borealis on par with Ukon.

Why do you keep trying to hold his dick for him?

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If there was a NASA for idiots you would be in the control room. You have no comprehension of the words that form a sentence. My first post about borealis had "3-5k" in it. You are trying to attribute claims to my post that I simply did not make so you have something to argue against. I never once ever claimed that a Borealis DRK could do the same over all damage as a WAR. I just said that it can do 5k WSs to high level content which is what so many people keep saying is unacceptable.

That's the last time I'm replying to you since you're joining the other grand master nincompoops on my ignore list. I can't deal with your malfunctioning brain anymore.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

Actually the only thing I claimed as you can see below is that "Borealis is pumping out 3-5k WSs" which is the only thing I actually do have evidence of in the form of a SS of someone doing a 5.3k resolution followed by a 3.3k resolution. Anything else thatyou manage to imagineer out of that post is just you failing to understand what words mean.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

I don't care if DRKs get a weapon that can do 5k but saying it's not ok for Ukon to do 5k but DRK is fine just throws balance right out the window.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

The fact that the weapon that facilitates the 5k damage resolutions is a random luck drop is just icing on the cake.

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Originally Posted by Insaniac

If it's not ok for WAR to do 5k WSs because of balance. Then why is it ok for DRK to do 5k WSs?

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I do apologize. I'd seen you going on and on about 5k so much I'd actually forgotten you did say 3k in your initial post. Still, you were trying to make a point of Borealis being on par with Ukon and it isn't.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

I do apologize. I'd seen you going on and on about 5k so much I'd actually forgotten you did say 3k in your initial post. Still, you were trying to make a point of Borealis being on par with Ukon and it isn't.

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No. He was't. You keep trying to make it about that because you have a major issue with following the discussion.

FrankReynolds, Insaniac - you should both probably do the same thing I did, which is to stop responding to or commenting on Scribbles posts in this thread. He ignores direct questions, purposely misinterprets your statements so he can continue to argue and bicker over semantics, and he's just amazingly mad for someone who - in his own words - doesn't care about warrior or this nerf.

I didn't ignore any questions unless I thought they were rhetorical. Tamoa, you're the queen of semantics because you say "Everyone else is underpowered" and refuse to go along with the fact that Ukon warrior is overpowered. I'm not mad at all. If anyone is mad it's the Ukon warriors, but there isn't any reason to be mad.

To recap:

Warrior gets hit with what is described by warriors as a huge nerf. Testing still puts them in front of other DD after the nerf. Despite this, no one wants to admit that warrior was overpowered and instead we place blame on other jobs for being 'underbalanced'.

Right. Sorted then?

balance

I'm not saying nerf RNG, I'm am saying this is our reward for the money we pump into this game month after month. It's what we spend all our time questing for the very best in gear. The dev team say it would be too difficult to go the other way. Is it not said "anything worth having isn't easy?"

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Originally Posted by Scribble

I didn't ignore any questions unless I thought they were rhetorical. Tamoa, you're the queen of semantics because you say "Everyone else is underpowered" and refuse to go along with the fact that Ukon warrior is overpowered. I'm not mad at all. If anyone is mad it's the Ukon warriors, but there isn't any reason to be mad.

To recap:

Warrior gets hit with what is described by warriors as a huge nerf. Testing still puts them in front of other DD after the nerf. Despite this, no one wants to admit that warrior was overpowered and instead we place blame on other jobs for being 'underbalanced'.

Right. Sorted then?

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I asked you 2 direct questions:

If your whm was nerfed in the name of balance and lost cure V, how would that make you feel?

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I asked you what this "content" is that you claim war is overpowered for, you said "endgame", and I asked you what you consider to be endgame in FFXI in 2012.

If you are talking about voidwatch, no war pumps out 5k+ Ukko's Furys constantly on the highest tier nms.

And I'm certainly not placing blame on other jobs for being underbalanced. I'm placing blame on SE for taking the easy way out to balance (how I have grown to loathe that word lately) jobs, balancing down and not up, not caring that they anger a lot of their players (and I'm perfectly aware that it isn't the first time they do that), and not to mention the fact that this ws has been in the game for well over one year before they decide it's "broken". Which it isn't by the way, it was designed to work the way it's currently working.

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Originally Posted by Tamoa

I asked you 2 direct questions:

If your whm was nerfed in the name of balance and lost cure V, how would that make you feel?

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I'm curious why you would think this has any relevance to the discussion. War isn't losing Ukon. You're just trying to force a response that isn't related to the issue. How's this: how would you feel if they nerfed cure v by 10% potency so they could give you an armor piece that boost all cure potency by 15%? Oh, and it's also equipable by rdm and sch as well.

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Originally Posted by Aarahs

IHow's this: how would you feel if they nerfed cure v by 10% potency so they could give you an armor piece that boost all cure potency by 15%? Oh, and it's also equipable by rdm and sch as well.

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Actually yes, that is a much better question, thank you.

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Originally Posted by Aarahs

I'm curious why you would think this has any relevance to the discussion. War isn't losing Ukon. You're just trying to force a response that isn't related to the issue.

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There is someone out there who can see what's going on here besides me. Praise Altana...

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Originally Posted by Aarahs

how would you feel if they nerfed cure v by 10% potency so they could give you an armor piece that boost all cure potency by 15%? Oh, and it's also equipable by rdm and sch as well.

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I don't really want to answer the question because it isn't similar to the situation facing warrior, but for the sake of 'that guy never answers direct questions', I will. That said, I'm not quite sure I understand the question anyway.

Nerfing Cure V isn't something that can be made up using gear so I'm not sure why that is part of the equation. There is a cure potency cap already on gear. The cap is 50%...

Arka IV + 24%
Fylgja Torque +3%
Nefer/Heka Kalarsiris(sp) +10~12 or 15% NQ/HQ
Serpentes armor(hands+feet) +5%
Oretania Cape +4%
Augur's gloves +4%
Tatsumaki Sitagoromo(ASA reward) +5%

As you can see, by using the above gear(with extra options for mixing and matching) it is easy for all the jobs you listed to meet that cap so that's a non-issue.

As far as giving RDM and SCH Cure V, it just doesn't make sense.

SCH has access to strong nukes so their ability to both heal, debuff, DoT and nuke doesn't suggest they need stronger healing. If you buffed SCH's healing ability then you'd have to buff WHM's nuking ability. lolbanish

RDM on the other hand needs more utility in the debuff area. They aren't reliable on anything worth a damn and to be honest I don't really think SE thought that one through. They definitely need some love, but Cure V would pigeonhole them into being a WHM substitute instead of giving them an identity of their own.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled Ukko's QQ thread...

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Originally Posted by Scribble

A buncha junk

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The bottom line is that people quested a weapon, and dumped time and effort and money into getting it because they valued the power that the weapon gave them. SE takes it away on a whim and you say they have no reason to be mad, which is basically saying that their time and effort is not worth anything.

You pretty much assert that its ok to take things from people as long as they will survive the ordeal, and that their feelings don't matter. Which is somewhat expected from a faceless corporation, but that doesn't make you any less of a jerk for cheering it on.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

The bottom line is that people quested a weapon, and dumped time and effort and money into getting it because they valued the power that the weapon gave them. SE takes it away on a whim and you say they have no reason to be mad, which is basically saying that their time and effort is not worth anything.

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You keep suggesting that warrior's power has been taken away from them, but you never address the fact that post-nerf, warrior will still be top DD. Why is that any reason to be mad and why do you continue to look past that?

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

You pretty much assert that its ok to take things from people as long as they will survive the ordeal, and that their feelings don't matter. Which is somewhat expected from a faceless corporation, but that doesn't make you any less of a jerk for cheering it on.

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Ordeal? Give me a fucking break. Warrior has always been better than 'surviving' and in fact they've been thriving longer than almost any job I can think of. You keep making it sound as if the job and it's viability will be destroyed by this change. Wake up and smell the imperial coffee.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

You keep suggesting that warrior's power has been taken away from them, but you never address the fact that post-nerf, warrior will still be top DD. Why is that any reason to be mad and why do you continue to look past that?

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Because Warriors don't care if you think they are still the best. They want the crap that they worked for to remain intact. I'm willing to bet that if someone mugged you, you would survive. You'd probably even continue to thrive, and be the best at W/E it is that do. Do you think that makes it ok? Do you really, really think that taking things from people is OK as long as they are doing better than you are? at all? It's not.

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Originally Posted by Scribble

Ordeal? Give me a fucking break. Warrior has always been better than 'surviving' and in fact they've been thriving longer than almost any job I can think of. You keep making it sound as if the job and it's viability will be destroyed by this change. Wake up and smell the imperial coffee.

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Look. If anyone works hard to earn a <insert item here> so that they can perform a job well, and then has it damaged, or weakened after they buy it, they are going to be (quite justifiably) pissed. They don't care if you or someone else, or everyone else thinks that <insert item here> is still great. It is not the same <insert item here> that they worked for. They have been cheated. The fact that doing so doesn't help anyone just adds insult to injury.

I would like to quote a very famous quote.... "Variety is the spice of life." War, in this game rather destroys this(and SAM) because they are simply the best DDs. Concurrently, it causes a major flux of people playing those 2 DDs more than others, simply because they outclass them by leaps and bounds. However, I am of like-mindedness to not nerf WAR and MNK and SAM and instead buffing all the other DD. I have 2 of those jobs myself, and I am still irked by the fact that they far outclass many of my other DD classes(many of which are even much better geared).

Seeing this game come out of being FF-SAMWARMNK is something of a dream of mine.

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Originally Posted by FrankReynolds

I'm willing to bet that if someone mugged you, you would survive.

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Now we're comparing it to being mugged? 10/10

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Originally Posted by Scribble

Now we're comparing it to being mugged? 10/10

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I know right? It's sad that you still can't grasp the concept of loss even when explained in such simple terms.

I like how you say you're being cheated out of your hard work as if war is the only job that uses empyrions. I also like how you say SE decided this on a whim when you have no indication on how long it took them to decide it had to happen in order progress the game. You are aware that other jobs got nerfs in the past, too, right? I'm pretty sure SE was aware of how the players would feel about this before they put it into motion.

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Originally Posted by Aarahs

I like how you say you're being cheated out of your hard work as if war is the only job that uses empyrions.

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I was unaware that my kanaggi was being nerfed too. Man this sucks even worse than I had thought.

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Originally Posted by Aarahs

I also like how you say SE decided this on a whim when you have no indication on how long it took them to decide it had to happen in order progress the game. You are aware that other jobs got nerfs in the past, too, right? I'm pretty sure SE was aware of how the players would feel about this before they put it into motion.

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I don't recall any parades being thrown for any nerfs in the past either. I'm pretty sure they knew wars would be pissed, but they were hoping they would just accept it and now they are trying to find ways to make up for it.


EDIT: oh wait.... JP dev1064 thread

I guess all your crying paid of Frank now can you shut the fuck up already jesus lol.

Regarding the previously discussed two part phase for warrior, we will be eliminating the aspect of enhancing the job trait “Critical Attack Bonus” from phase 2. The reason being that we feel that with the re-adjustment of the Ukko’s Fury’s TP modifier (by raising it slightly) that this value is now at just the right place.

We are working on reflecting the second phase of the adjustments as well as the changes to Ukko’s Fury during the test server update scheduled for the latter half of next week. Please test out these changes on the test server and let us know your feedback.

*Additional information on the weapon skill adjustments can be found here.

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Originally Posted by Camate

The reason being that we feel that with the re-adjustment of the Ukko’s Fury’s TP modifier (by raising it slightly) that this value is now at just the right place.

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That will remain to be seen when the changes hit the test server, but just eyeballing they look reasonable.

From the other post:

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In exchange for slightly raising the critical hit rate with the re-adjustment, of the two adjustments that were planned to take place along with this to enhance the effects of Double Attack and Critical Hit Bonus, we will now only be adjusting Double Attack.

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Yo dawg, we heard you like double attack...

I'm not even a Warrior, but isnt this nerfing the entire job, in exchange for buffing (the nerf) on a select number of users on the job? That just screams really lazy... I know a "good" WAR should have access to Ukko's, but.... really.... lazy...

Not that I feel WAR really needs a further buff right now, but saying "You're gonna get this!" and then snatching it away isnt on.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Regarding the previously discussed two part phase for warrior, we will be eliminating the aspect of enhancing the job trait “Critical Attack Bonus” from phase 2. The reason being that we feel that with the re-adjustment of the Ukko’s Fury’s TP modifier (by raising it slightly) that this value is now at just the right place.

We are working on reflecting the second phase of the adjustments as well as the changes to Ukko’s Fury during the test server update scheduled for the latter half of next week. Please test out these changes on the test server and let us know your feedback.

*Additional information on the weapon skill adjustments can be found here.

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Thats all fine and good that the team feels ukkos is at the right strength now but what about all the other warriors without ukkos fury, they now need to suffer to apease the players whining about their extremly broken ws being balanced.

Removing the crit attack bonus is a bad idea, it hurts all warriors not just people with ukkos fury.

The first values for ukkos fury on the test server were fine now its almost back to being overpowered again and far from balanced.

Also in comparsion almost all emperian weapons are in need of nerfs not just ukkos fury and victory smite, either nerf them some or re-adjust relic mythic and merited weaponskills to a value where the can compete.

so many delicious tears, all for nothing


I am sad :/