DRK Adjustments via Manifesto

<SE> Dear WAR we have decided that even tho the balance for you has been broken for years we are gonna make it so you can now do 10 regular hits and 100k ws's, you'll have access to ever spell, JT, and JA in the game (Including 2hr's), and finally we are scraping all our current plans to update anyother jobs other than WAR.

Theres your WAR post enjoy.

I'm fairly certain SE is content with what they've told us so far.

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Originally Posted by Korpg

Defense is a useless stat. Unless you have over 10k defense, you won't see the difference between 1 defense and 9999 defense.

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This is bullshit. Stop stating this crap.
It is a useless stat because you blink tank most things. It is not a useless stat because it does nothing. High defence pieces can actually mitigate similar or more damage than PDT gear. For example when that Def+20 ring came out, it was actually better than patronus's 2% PDT for Rdm. There are likely other occurances of this. Probably if you compared things like darksteel harness set with koenig set, you'd see similar results.

Furthermore, the most obvious example to prove to you that your comment of "1 def or 9999 def wont make a difference" is counterstance.
You ever seen a monk take damage with counterstance? I'll tell you it's one hell of a lot higher than they take without it.

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Originally Posted by noodles355

This is bullshit. Stop stating this crap.
It is a useless stat because you blink tank most things. It is not a useless stat because it does nothing. High defence pieces can actually mitigate similar or more damage than PDT gear. For example when that Def+20 ring came out, it was actually better than patronus's 2% PDT for Rdm. There are likely other occurances of this. Probably if you compared things like darksteel harness set with koenig set, you'd see similar results.

Furthermore, the most obvious example to prove to you that your comment of "1 def or 9999 def wont make a difference" is counterstance.
You ever seen a monk take damage with counterstance? I'll tell you it's one hell of a lot higher than they take without it.

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I wouldn't say defense is useless.

Example a monk using counterstance on me in ballista: Stun -> Melee Swing -> Hello 500+ normal hit/critical, without souleater.

Not useless, but certainly not all that effective either.

Wearing big, heavy armor just doesn't mitigate damage the way it should in this game.

How about:

A 20:00 recast job ability that may be used on yourself or a party member which grants an undead Re-Raise like effect that revives the effected player in an unweakened state upon K.O. No EXP is re-gained with this effect.

A 1:20ish recast job ability similar (or exactly) to Abyssal Strike that stuns the target.

A series of job traits starting around level 60 that increase the likelihood of magical attacks dealing critical damage. This trait could effect elemental weaponskills as well.

An adjustment to the spell Dread Spikes, where the amount of HP drained per hit is reduced and dependent on comparison factors while the duration of the spell (in time, not total HP drained) is increased to 2:30 or so.

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Originally Posted by StingRay104

<SE> Dear WAR we have decided that even tho the balance for you has been broken for years we are gonna make it so you can now do 10 regular hits and 100k ws's, you'll have access to ever spell, JT, and JA in the game (Including 2hr's), and finally we are scraping all our current plans to update anyother jobs other than WAR.

Theres your WAR post enjoy.

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Took them long enough...

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Originally Posted by Selzak

How about:

A 20:00 recast job ability that may be used on yourself or a party member which grants an undead Re-Raise like effect that revives the effected player in an unweakened state upon K.O. No EXP is re-gained with this effect.

A 1:20ish recast job ability similar (or exactly) to Abyssal Strike that stuns the target.

A series of job traits starting around level 60 that increase the likelihood of magical attacks dealing critical damage. This trait could effect elemental weaponskills as well.

An adjustment to the spell Dread Spikes, where the amount of HP drained per hit is reduced and dependent on comparison factors while the duration of the spell (in time, not total HP drained) is increased to 2:30 or so.

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I want the abyssal blast that Jnuns have.

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Originally Posted by noodles355

This is bullshit. Stop stating this crap.
It is a useless stat because you blink tank most things. It is not a useless stat because it does nothing. High defence pieces can actually mitigate similar or more damage than PDT gear. For example when that Def+20 ring came out, it was actually better than patronus's 2% PDT for Rdm. There are likely other occurances of this. Probably if you compared things like darksteel harness set with koenig set, you'd see similar results.

Furthermore, the most obvious example to prove to you that your comment of "1 def or 9999 def wont make a difference" is counterstance.
You ever seen a monk take damage with counterstance? I'll tell you it's one hell of a lot higher than they take without it.

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From what ive seen most monsters only have around 600 attack(weak mobs ~Even Match not NMs Either) meaning 300 def caps you on PDIF but they have a weapon damage of 200~ that is where the differation in damage comes from with player defense also its why plds dont turtle.

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Originally Posted by Jar

From what ive seen most monsters only have around 600 attack(weak mobs ~Even Match not NMs Either) meaning 300 def caps you on PDIF but they have a weapon damage of 200~ that is where the differation in damage comes from with player defense also its why plds dont turtle.

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This seems surprisingly plausible.

Howdy! In regards to all of the feedback and questions we have been receiving, we got some additional information about the future dark knight from the development team.

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Make it so we can deal large amounts of damage proportionate to the amount of risk taken.

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Just as shown in the concept, we will be making adjustments so that you can temporarily deal larger amounts of damage compared to other jobs.

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Include “attackers specialized in absorption” to the concept and make adjustments based on this.

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Don’t think that we will not be considering things that were not mentioned in the concept.The core of adjustments will be what is outlined in the concepts, but we will be making adjustments to enhance and spruce them up.

We are aware of your requests for changes/additions revolving around absorption and we are looking into new ideas for it besides just Drain, Aspir, and the other existing absorb-type spells.

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Get rid of the Souleater resistance on NMs.

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This will really depend on balance adjustments between the stats of Souleater itself and a monster’s strength. For right now, from a balance perspective we believe it is difficult to get rid of the resistance.

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Add an ability that adds to your attack when taking damage.

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In the next version update we will be adding an ability that raises your attack power when taking damage. The effect can be used with both physical and magical damage.

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Add a job trait that raises magic attack.

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We are looking into implementing an ability that converts a large amount of MP into increased magic attack. When using this you will also receive a stronger Occult Acumen effect.

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Increase our parry skill so that we can receive a larger benefit from Tactical Parry.

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First as an overall adjustment, we will be revamping the difficulty of increasing parry skill. After this, the next step will be skill adjustments for each class.

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Add Fast Cast specific for Dark Magic.

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We will look into it. We will make it so dark knight is the most affluent with Stun, Drain, and other Dark Magic.

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Revamp the MP cost and recast time on Dread Spikes.

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We will be grouping this with the Dark Magic adjustments written above, so we are thinking to address this through Dark Magic Fast Cast.

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Make it so it’s possible to absorb MP with Aspir from enemies that do not have MP.

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It would be kind of strange to absorb something that does not exist, so if we were to adjust Aspir we would be looking into it from a different direction.

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Increase the effect of absorb spells.

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For absorb-type spells we will first be looking into removing the time decay of stats that were absorbed. After this, we plan on making adjustments to the effects.

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Add Stun II.

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When considering the current properties and potency of Stun, we are not thinking of adding another stun at this time.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Don’t think that we will not be considering things that were not mentioned in the concept.

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Holy Cottonballs!

A triple negative~!

First off thank you camate for a 2nd response, after the first response it is good to hear.

Second I don't think its ridiculous to ask that this update include a fix to the absorbs spells in the following manner: Make absorbs stack with cruor buffs. I understand removing decay is gonna take some time but this can be done now, in fact it should have been done along time ago, all other stat related buffs from other jobs stack with cruor buffs why not our absorbs.

Third thank you for finally considering the decay on absorb spells, but please look into increasing their strength as well.

Fourth, its sad that there will not (at this point) be a stun II, but at least your considering a fast cast specific for DRK and that you want us to be better at stunning (Look into lowering the down time on weapon bash please), also an increase in stun duration (preferred based on dark magic skill) would also be very nice if it could be done.

Fifth, it sounds like you guyus are finally listening to our ideas as far as magic and specifically occult acumen is concerned, please make it worth our wild seeing as how for once we seem to be on the same page.

Sixth, souleater resistance is really lame just like sch modus veritas miss, it should be removed. Unfortunately you and the dev team feels different and thus we will be constantly butting heads on this, but take heed on this at least. Its not fair to us players to have a unique ability become useful after only a short amount of attacks, its just wrong. We were constantly asking for AV to become a accomplishable challenge and you neglected our complaints and we found alternative ways to accomplish the task, and this upset you so you took your revenge upon us. The same holds true for modus veritas, which isn't a difficult fix just put a cap of 5 modus stacks and there its fixed, and return the ability to a perfect accuracy ability. As for souleater I can understand that you don't want us to misuse it like the old days but since war can just spam 10k Ukko's fury's why still hold a grudge on souleater, its ridiculous. Thats how I feel and I think you'll find many who agree with me on the topic.

Finally, altho I completely agree with the new steps towards a magic buff for DRK I have to say the t3 nukes we have cost too much for us to use well, now if you fix it so that everything has mp to aspir and aspir starts netting faster then alot of this will be resolved, but otherwise we need a new direction. Such as a new set of DRK only nukes that have low casting cost offer up the kind of damage and tp return we expect from your new abilities and most of all include some of that amazing debuff like magic we use, for instance make it lower stats, or skills, kinda like impact but less powerful and more DRK focused. I think that will go a long ways with what we all expect out of DRK, especially if we can drain our opponents def......HINT!!!!HINT!!!!!WINK!!!!WINK!!!!!

For the ability to absorb MP with aspir from mobs that do not have MP there could be a way to do it. What if you just make a JA that basically says the next aspir spell absorbs the mobs HP and converts it into MP for the user. You could call the JA "Dark Essence" or something and make it a 5 min duration lol.

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Originally Posted by Airget

For the ability to absorb MP with aspir from mobs that do not have MP there could be a way to do it. What if you just make a JA that basically says the next aspir spell absorbs the mobs HP and converts it into MP for the user. You could call the JA "Dark Essence" or something and make it a 5 min duration lol.

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This idea isn't very far fetched.

Especially with Ws like Spirit Taker and Mystic Boon converting Damage Dealt(HP) to users MP.

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When considering the current properties and potency of Stun, we are not thinking of adding another stun at this time.

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So why does there seem to be an animation for it in the data files?

Kinda late here, but rather than a "Stun II" give us Terror with a similar casting time of Stun. Terror is like Stun only it shuts you down for a bit longer.

The "Darkness" or "Unholy" (I think that was Holy's opposite in FFT), I'd LOVE to see that happen.

We have Souleater as an effect, and I find myself using it to boost a WS and after WS removing it to avoid dying. Why not give a new JA called "Darkside" that makes your next hit sacrifice some HP for additional dmg?

Now, after all these years.. One gripe I've always had... Spiral Hell sucks. Any way we could get a job trait that boosts WS DMG, and make Spiral Hell worth using? The best I ever did with it was during the DRK/THF days, full buffing it.

And the cries for "Insurgency = Crit-hit WS" get ignored...

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Originally Posted by Minsc

And the cries for "Insurgency = Crit-hit WS" get ignored...

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I don't have Insurgency, no one does Nyzul anymore.

In regards to absorbing MP when there is none there... maybe a new dark spell that will deal a form of damage and convert it in MP. Kinda like the way Spirit Taker works. Or maybe a trait/ability that will make any Weapon Skill function like Spirit Taker.



edit- didn't see the other post regarding this till after I posted; sorry.


In regards to no Stun II... maybe lower the recast of Weapon Bash. Or if possible, have the Bash ability charge up similar to the way Stratagems do. I think that would be a hefty addition to the stun arsenal.

That or give them the Osmose spell where instead of draining MP like aspir it deals damage and converts it into MP.

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Originally Posted by Kojo

I don't have Insurgency, no one does Nyzul anymore.

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I do and I want it crit based.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

I do and I want it crit based.

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I simply want it. >.> THEN I'll want it crit based.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Howdy! In regards to all of the feedback and questions we have been receiving, we got some additional information about the future dark knight from the development team.



Just as shown in the concept, we will be making adjustments so that you can temporarily deal larger amounts of damage compared to other jobs.



Don’t think that we will not be considering things that were not mentioned in the concept.The core of adjustments will be what is outlined in the concepts, but we will be making adjustments to enhance and spruce them up.

We are aware of your requests for changes/additions revolving around absorption and we are looking into new ideas for it besides just Drain, Aspir, and the other existing absorb-type spells.



This will really depend on balance adjustments between the stats of Souleater itself and a monster’s strength. For right now, from a balance perspective we believe it is difficult to get rid of the resistance.



In the next version update we will be adding an ability that raises your attack power when taking damage. The effect can be used with both physical and magical damage.



We are looking into implementing an ability that converts a large amount of MP into increased magic attack. When using this you will also receive a stronger Occult Acumen effect.



First as an overall adjustment, we will be revamping the difficulty of increasing parry skill. After this, the next step will be skill adjustments for each class.



We will look into it. We will make it so dark knight is the most affluent with Stun, Drain, and other Dark Magic.



We will be grouping this with the Dark Magic adjustments written above, so we are thinking to address this through Dark Magic Fast Cast.



It would be kind of strange to absorb something that does not exist, so if we were to adjust Aspir we would be looking into it from a different direction.



For absorb-type spells we will first be looking into removing the time decay of stats that were absorbed. After this, we plan on making adjustments to the effects.



When considering the current properties and potency of Stun, we are not thinking of adding another stun at this time.

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Originally Posted by Camate

Just as shown in the concept, we will be making adjustments so that you can temporarily deal larger amounts of damage compared to other jobs.

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-By increasing attack while taking damage, you don't mean the actual +"Attack" statistic do you? With food and and the Dark Knight's inherently high attack + endark this would turn out to be rather inconsequential.

I'm hoping you mean a straight % to damage dealt, and also applies to magical damage as well.

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Originally Posted by Camate

It would be kind of strange to absorb something that does not exist, so if we were to adjust Aspir we would be looking into it from a different direction.

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-A concern by many Dark Knights is that we do not have the MP required to do what the development team envisions for our job. That all of this magical talk is useless if we are without the MP required to fuel it.

If we are sacrificing MP to boost our damage through MP:

Is the Dev Team planning on increasing our base MP?

Decreasing the base cost of spells through a job trait/ability native to Dark Knight.

Giving us a magical spell or job ability that allows us to convert damage dealt -> mp?

Giving Dark Knight Tiers of Auto refresh, or abilities to recover HP/MP more effectively?

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Originally Posted by Camate

We are looking into implementing an ability that converts a large amount of MP into increased magic attack. When using this you will also receive a stronger Occult Acumen effect.

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-By sacrificing MP to increase magical attack or taking damage to increase magical attack, will this also apply to the line of Aspir/Drain?

If this new stance or ability to increase our magical attack does not increase the power of our signature line of spells, this seems very lackluster and useless.



First things first:

-How do you intend for Dark Knight to be able to cast spells in combat while on the front lines?

Our elemental skill level is too low, the spells take too long to cast compared to melee hits, and the most common support Job is Samurai which only serves to lengthen and hurt our already feeble spell casting abilities.

Or we to sacrifice the best support job we have to increase our failing physical damage capabilities, to use half-baked magical methods of inflicted pain on our foes?

And we are interrupted easily, like a baby being distracted by a shiny object.

Does SE plan on giving us fast cast for all magics?

An strong trait that gives us interruption resistance?

An absorb spell that greatly reduces the enemy casting speed and greatly increases our own?

Created and replicated Camate's post in this forum in the Dark Knight area:

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...603#post160603


I suppose that's a more 'proper' place for it anyway, so its there, go talk about it or whatever, and community rep's post there!

Thank you.

Meh, DRK's blubbering about a lack of gear to make nukes count has me shaking my head. As is, the back is certainly our weakest slot for these builds, but +53 INT and +34 MATK is possible with a set, maybe more depending on what you have access to. Compared to RDM, I'm sitting on +73 INT and +33 MATK. No doubt a native MATK trait helps, as well as the likelihood of swapping staves. Regardless, these can double toward the elemental WS like Infernal and Herculean, which may be further adjusted amongst the vague reference to WS adjustments. Insurgency going crit-based could also be among those tweaks. I do feel DRKs should get at least level 2 in the MATK trait, though, and all the MP jobs deserve some form of tiered auto-refresh to both up longevity and versatility.

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Originally Posted by Seriha

Meh, DRK's blubbering about a lack of gear to make nukes count has me shaking my head. As is, the back is certainly our weakest slot for these builds, but +53 INT and +34 MATK is possible with a set, maybe more depending on what you have access to. Compared to RDM, I'm sitting on +73 INT and +33 MATK. No doubt a native MATK trait helps, as well as the likelihood of swapping staves. Regardless, these can double toward the elemental WS like Infernal and Herculean, which may be further adjusted amongst the vague reference to WS adjustments. Insurgency going crit-based could also be among those tweaks. I do feel DRKs should get at least level 2 in the MATK trait, though, and all the MP jobs deserve some form of tiered auto-refresh to both up longevity and versatility.

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DRK has excellent gear for nuking, anyone who says otherwise is ignorant.


The native MATK and ability to swap staves without negative repercussions however,

is kind of a big deal.

Camate, I'm legitimately hyped to hear this news. O_O

I'd like to offer some input to the developers for consideration, if they haven't already:

• Aftermath Adjustment for Catastrophe: With Dark Knight able to obtain gear-related haste more easily, we believe the aftermath effect of 10% Haste applied to gear after using Catastrophe would be better suited toward Magical Haste from now on.

• Job Ability Dire Strike: The Dark Knight consumes a portion of their own HP to enhance their next attack and ignore level difference penalties.

• Dark Magic Demi, Demi II, Demi III, Scathe: Deals Dark Magical Damage to an enemy.*

• Dark Magic Absorb-Attack: Steals a target's attack rating and adds it to the caster's own.

• Dark Magic Absorb-Speed: Steals a target's attack speed and adds Haste to the caster.

Let us know what the devs think!

*Since Paladin and White Mage have their own set of Divine Magic "Nukes," why shouldn't Dark Knights have their own set of Dark Magic "Nukes"? Black Mage can be added to the jobs that can use it as well if desired.

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Originally Posted by Minsc

And the cries for "Insurgency = Crit-hit WS" get ignored...

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I've honestly given up on the idea of Insurgency becoming a Critical-Damage WS the moment I saw that Vorpal Scythe is already one. Guillotine isn't that bad now that we have Last Resort at a 3-minute duration, and It's okay for Normal Monsters and Lower-Tier NMs. We can easily cap Accuracy, now we just need to push our Attack stat further.

Though, whatever happened to the idea of using Spinning Slash for Bigger NMs? I'm pretty sure some vets already know this, but *GASP!* Spinning Slash ignores level penalties in the same way Flashy Shot does! Try it with either Stout Arm/Razed Ruins/Apocalypse or Alpha&Omega/RazedRuins/Apocalypse. I had some passable numbers with it while it lasted for me.

If it doesn't, well...either find a gear set to improve it, or suck it up and work for an Empyrean Weapon (or WoE Weapon depending on how much you play).

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Originally Posted by Quetzacoatl

Camate, I'm legitimately hyped to hear this news. O_O

I'd like to offer some input to the developers for consideration, if they haven't already:

• Aftermath Adjustment for Catastrophe: With Dark Knight able to obtain gear-related haste more easily, we believe the aftermath effect of 10% Haste applied to gear after using Catastrophe would be better suited toward Magical Haste from now on.

• Job Ability Dire Strike: The Dark Knight consumes a portion of their own HP to enhance their next attack and ignore level difference penalties.

• Dark Magic Demi, Demi II, Demi III, Scathe: Deals Dark Magical Damage to an enemy.*

• Dark Magic Absorb-Attack: Steals a target's attack rating and adds it to the caster's own.

• Dark Magic Absorb-Speed: Steals a target's attack speed and adds Haste to the caster.

Let us know what the devs think!

*Since Paladin and White Mage have their own set of Divine Magic "Nukes," why shouldn't Dark Knights have their own set of Dark Magic "Nukes"? Black Mage can be added to the jobs that can use it as well if desired.

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I like all of these, like +1.


Maybe we could sacrifice our hp to force a critical? "Dire Strike".


The Catastrophe nonsense that is going on now I don't understand either, if Aegis can boost the -mdt cap why doesn't our aftermath get 'helped'? Its totally worthless due to a Job Trait we possess.



Good ideas, especially the Dark Magic nukes because I don't understand why Holy is in the game and "Dunkelheit" "Darkness" is not.

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Originally Posted by Quetzacoatl

I've honestly given up on the idea of Insurgency becoming a Critical-Damage WS the moment I saw that Vorpal Scythe is already one. Guillotine isn't that bad now that we have Last Resort at a 3-minute duration, and It's okay for Normal Monsters and Lower-Tier NMs. We can easily cap Accuracy, now we just need to push our Attack stat further.

Though, whatever happened to the idea of using Spinning Slash for Bigger NMs? I'm pretty sure some vets already know this, but *GASP!* Spinning Slash ignores level penalties in the same way Flashy Shot does! Try it with either Stout Arm/Razed Ruins/Apocalypse or Alpha&Omega/RazedRuins/Apocalypse. I had some passable numbers with it while it lasted for me.

If it doesn't, well...either find a gear set to improve it, or suck it up and work for an Empyrean Weapon (or WoE Weapon depending on how much you play).

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Except that other weapons have multiple crit-hit WSs...

Polearm: Vorpal Thrust, Skewer, Drakesbane
Great Axe: Raging Rush, Ukko's Fury
H2H: Backhand Blow, Stringing Pummel, Ascetic's Fury, Victory Smite
Sword: Vorpal Blade, Chant du Cygne

So in other words, not exactly unheard of for a weapon to have more than one crit-hit WS.

I like where this is going

Always figured that DRK's damage was supposed to stem from raw base damage like Spiral Hell(at 300%), Spinning Slash, Ground Strike, Torcleaver. Basically instead of low fTP, multiple hits with crit potential, thought DRK's philosophy of DD was supposed to be high fTP/high WSC. Should crit WS be the end all be all to WS? They do good damage only due to Abyssea things but on future mob that have crazy def/evasion a multihit crit ws will probably suck. For example, unless heavily debuffed and myself heavily buffed, a Drakesbane on Kirin/Sky Gods/TOAU Kings would do like 500-800 on average just because of their high def and level differences at 75. Of course by the same token a Spinning Slash or Steel Cyclone would do 1000-1400 just because of the +Att% multiplier on those WS. For future mobs which are going to be multiple levels above us with higher eva/def, I can see WS like Victory Smite/Drakesbane and others not doing so well. Ukkos and Hi might be spared since they're fewer hits, although I can see Hi's damage dropping significantly just because of the pDIF rape of a NIN's att vs a future HNM's def unless with Curry and Berserk up and dia3/angon on the mob.

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Originally Posted by Ophannus

Always figured that DRK's damage was supposed to stem from raw base damage like Spiral Hell(at 300%), Spinning Slash, Ground Strike, Torcleaver. Basically instead of low fTP, multiple hits with crit potential, thought DRK's philosophy of DD was supposed to be high fTP/high WSC. Should crit WS be the end all be all to WS? They do good damage only due to Abyssea things but on future mob that have crazy def/evasion a multihit crit ws will probably suck. For example, unless heavily debuffed and myself heavily buffed, a Drakesbane on Kirin/Sky Gods/TOAU Kings would do like 500-800 on average just because of their high def and level differences at 75. Of course by the same token a Spinning Slash or Steel Cyclone would do 1000-1400 just because of the +Att% multiplier on those WS. For future mobs which are going to be multiple levels above us with higher eva/def, I can see WS like Victory Smite/Drakesbane and others not doing so well. Ukkos and Hi might be spared since they're fewer hits, although I can see Hi's damage dropping significantly just because of the pDIF rape of a NIN's att vs a future HNM's def unless with Curry and Berserk up and dia3/angon on the mob.

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And what's the problem with having both? Never said crit-hit WSs should be the end all be all WS, would just be nice to see DRK get a good one too. You reference Steel Cyclone, but when's the last time you've seen WAR use that in Abyssea? Just saying it'd be nice for DRK to be on par with a lot of the other DDs out there when it comes to variety of WSs.

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Originally Posted by Minsc

Except that other weapons have multiple crit-hit WSs...

Polearm: Vorpal Thrust, Skewer, Drakesbane
Great Axe: Raging Rush, Ukko's Fury
H2H: Backhand Blow, Stringing Pummel, Ascetic's Fury, Victory Smite
Sword: Vorpal Blade, Chant du Cygne

So in other words, not exactly unheard of for a weapon to have more than one crit-hit WS.

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I understand that, but it seems like at this this point of the game, there's no intent for DRK to have big-hitter critical damage Weapon Skills in SE's eyes. It would help, but for how long now that we're almost done with Abyssea? Unless that "adjustment of weapon skills" note at the end of the manifesto is giving us a hint of the possibility. We'll just have to see.

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Originally Posted by Urteil

I like all of these, like +1.

Maybe we could sacrifice our hp to force a critical? "Dire Strike".

The Catastrophe nonsense that is going on now I don't understand either, if Aegis can boost the -mdt cap why doesn't our aftermath get 'helped'? Its totally worthless due to a Job Trait we possess.

Good ideas, especially the Dark Magic nukes because I don't understand why Holy is in the game and "Dunkelheit" "Darkness" is not.

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I figured someone would suggest that about Dire Strike. It seems like that would just get sand kicked in THF's face if it were forced critical hit, so ignoring cRatio is where I believe we should start focusing instead. Jar may have acted like a douche at times, but he was onto something.

Yeah something needs to be done about Catastrophe's Aftermath; no question about it.

Having Dark Magic nukes would be nice too, considering that we're now getting an ability that converts part of our MP into Magic Attack.

admittedly, I don't play drk, and I prolly wouldn't even check this thread if it wasn't for Camate posting manifesto info here, but I like the parry thing....parry sucks to skillup and I'm thrilled to hear that they are going to revamp it :)

As a side note, being a whm, I'd totally support any increase to DRK's ability to heal themselves through drains lol

Does "Revamping the difficulty of skilling parry" mean its going to be easier or harder to skill parry?

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Originally Posted by Bubeeky

admittedly, I don't play drk, and I prolly wouldn't even check this thread if it wasn't for Camate posting manifesto info here, but I like the parry thing....parry sucks to skillup and I'm thrilled to hear that they are going to revamp it :)

As a side note, being a whm, I'd totally support any increase to DRK's ability to heal themselves through drains lol

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Definitely. Faster and more potent Drains would give the job more individuality.

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Originally Posted by Gotterdammerung

Does "Revamping the difficulty of skilling parry" mean its going to be easier or harder to skill parry?

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Knowing SE, it will be harder.