DRK Adjustments via Manifesto

[StingRay104]

<SE> Dear WAR we have decided that even tho the balance for you has been broken for years we are gonna make it so you can now do 10 regular hits and 100k ws's, you'll have access to ever spell, JT, and JA in the game (Including 2hr's), and finally we are scraping all our current plans to update anyother jobs other than WAR.

Theres your WAR post enjoy.

[Dauntless]

I'm fairly certain SE is content with what they've told us so far.

[noodles355]

Defense is a useless stat. Unless you have over 10k defense, you won't see the difference between 1 defense and 9999 defense.

This is bullshit. Stop stating this crap.
It is a useless stat because you blink tank most things. It is not a useless stat because it does nothing. High defence pieces can actually mitigate similar or more damage than PDT gear. For example when that Def+20 ring came out, it was actually better than patronus's 2% PDT for Rdm. There are likely other occurances of this. Probably if you compared things like darksteel harness set with koenig set, you'd see similar results.

Furthermore, the most obvious example to prove to you that your comment of "1 def or 9999 def wont make a difference" is counterstance.
You ever seen a monk take damage with counterstance? I'll tell you it's one hell of a lot higher than they take without it.

[Urteil]

This is bullshit. Stop stating this crap.
It is a useless stat because you blink tank most things. It is not a useless stat because it does nothing. High defence pieces can actually mitigate similar or more damage than PDT gear. For example when that Def+20 ring came out, it was actually better than patronus's 2% PDT for Rdm. There are likely other occurances of this. Probably if you compared things like darksteel harness set with koenig set, you'd see similar results.

Furthermore, the most obvious example to prove to you that your comment of "1 def or 9999 def wont make a difference" is counterstance.
You ever seen a monk take damage with counterstance? I'll tell you it's one hell of a lot higher than they take without it.

I wouldn't say defense is useless.

Example a monk using counterstance on me in ballista: Stun -> Melee Swing -> Hello 500+ normal hit/critical, without souleater.

[Malacite]

Not useless, but certainly not all that effective either.

Wearing big, heavy armor just doesn't mitigate damage the way it should in this game.

[Selzak]

How about:

A 20:00 recast job ability that may be used on yourself or a party member which grants an undead Re-Raise like effect that revives the effected player in an unweakened state upon K.O. No EXP is re-gained with this effect.

A 1:20ish recast job ability similar (or exactly) to Abyssal Strike that stuns the target.

A series of job traits starting around level 60 that increase the likelihood of magical attacks dealing critical damage. This trait could effect elemental weaponskills as well.

An adjustment to the spell Dread Spikes, where the amount of HP drained per hit is reduced and dependent on comparison factors while the duration of the spell (in time, not total HP drained) is increased to 2:30 or so.

[Leonlionheart]

<SE> Dear WAR we have decided that even tho the balance for you has been broken for years we are gonna make it so you can now do 10 regular hits and 100k ws's, you'll have access to ever spell, JT, and JA in the game (Including 2hr's), and finally we are scraping all our current plans to update anyother jobs other than WAR.

Theres your WAR post enjoy.

Took them long enough...

[Urteil]

How about:

A 20:00 recast job ability that may be used on yourself or a party member which grants an undead Re-Raise like effect that revives the effected player in an unweakened state upon K.O. No EXP is re-gained with this effect.

A 1:20ish recast job ability similar (or exactly) to Abyssal Strike that stuns the target.

A series of job traits starting around level 60 that increase the likelihood of magical attacks dealing critical damage. This trait could effect elemental weaponskills as well.

An adjustment to the spell Dread Spikes, where the amount of HP drained per hit is reduced and dependent on comparison factors while the duration of the spell (in time, not total HP drained) is increased to 2:30 or so.

I want the abyssal blast that Jnuns have.

[Jar]

This is bullshit. Stop stating this crap.
It is a useless stat because you blink tank most things. It is not a useless stat because it does nothing. High defence pieces can actually mitigate similar or more damage than PDT gear. For example when that Def+20 ring came out, it was actually better than patronus's 2% PDT for Rdm. There are likely other occurances of this. Probably if you compared things like darksteel harness set with koenig set, you'd see similar results.

Furthermore, the most obvious example to prove to you that your comment of "1 def or 9999 def wont make a difference" is counterstance.
You ever seen a monk take damage with counterstance? I'll tell you it's one hell of a lot higher than they take without it.

From what ive seen most monsters only have around 600 attack(weak mobs ~Even Match not NMs Either) meaning 300 def caps you on PDIF but they have a weapon damage of 200~ that is where the differation in damage comes from with player defense also its why plds dont turtle.

[Urteil]

From what ive seen most monsters only have around 600 attack(weak mobs ~Even Match not NMs Either) meaning 300 def caps you on PDIF but they have a weapon damage of 200~ that is where the differation in damage comes from with player defense also its why plds dont turtle.

This seems surprisingly plausible.