So i leeched my job to 90 in abyssea

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Originally Posted by Tamoa

When the level cap was first raised, and we didn't know how abyssea worked, I wanted to cry at the thought of having to exp my 7 75s. Having to put up with gimp ass DDs, drks fulltiming souleater, people leaving the party with 1 minute notice, no brds seeking omg!, shitty healers, 1 or even 2 party members afking unannounced, and competing for exp camps and mobs - it was the last thing I wanted to go through again.

The first week or so, that's exactly what happened too. Every damn possible exp camp was full to the max and then some. Ffs I went to PROMYVION for exp and had to compete for mobs there too!!!

Thank you SE, for abyssea.

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Good god, this. I took 3 of my jobs to 80 before the community figured out the whole Abyssea EXP thing and I just wanted to crawl into a corner for a few weeks before even thinking about doing the others. It didn't take any more skill than Abyssea exp, it was just so god damned repetitive. After getting 600~ish merits in the past, there was no way in hell I wanted to see a pink bird again.

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

I am a REAL BRD, WHM, RDM, etc. and I can tell you if I let melees dictate what spells to cast, our leveling would have been less efficient.

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If you're a REAL player I'd rather have some fake ones. Stop being terribad.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/569...yer-thread-III

OMG, some players exping the REAL way in 2008 were bad? Holy crap.

EDIT: you know what? let's just link images from the first page of the thread. There are about 400 pages total before Abyssea, by the way.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...lltimesam2.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...lltimesam1.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8360/lolpldeb1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27.../wutkraken.jpg

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http://i26.tinypic.com/296kvox.jpg

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http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...412_220520.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...412_224550.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...yffxi/gimp.jpg

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http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...413_085930.png

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...413_085906.png

Over the top? Maybe. But you have to realise you have rose-tinted glasses!

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Originally Posted by Greatguardian

You know what was an accomplishment? Killing Odin with under 18 back when he was hard. Standing up to AV to run tests on his behavior and stats. Beating Pandemonium Warden. There are accomplishments in FFXI, real ones, and not very many people can lay claim to them. Those haven't been cheapened by the advent of Abyssea; no, they have been immortalized. No one else for the remainder of the game's life can lay claim to beating PW at 75 than the people who have already done so.

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Level syncing to 75 works.

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Originally Posted by Tenshibaby

Since comparing something to anything other than itself seems to lose some of you, let me dumb it down:
You didn't "win" the debate over the appropriateness of easy leveling in Abyssea with any logical foundation. It is always popular to do things the easy way, just as doing things the right way is often unpopular. If enough lazy or incapable people shouted down those of us who know better, that doesn't mean you won.

Does it bug you when I deem the traditional way the "right way"? Good. I stand by it, and the current state of the game (and forums with 90 BRD asking which skills he needs) stand as my evidence.

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Right and wrong are different for different people. What your camp doesn't realize is that your "right way" of leveling is still intact so you have no right to take ours away.

You all could try not being elitist snubs and just help the 90 Brd by answering his question and moving on. It seems all he did was help stir up drama for the players that give a crap about leeching, which I find the most enjoyable part of this topic. Funny thing is that all the people complaining about leeching have most likely leeched themselves.

Abyssea did not create the problem of leeching/level syncing/powerleveling to max level...it's always been there. As a career WHM, I've had to oppose this my whole 8 years playing, violently sometimes, because it's always been the prime reason for crappy players. Having said that, the problem is that Abyssea has made it easier and harder to oppose it. The game is doing the powerleveling now, so no one needs the approval/assistance of others.

I can't fault anyone for leeching to 90 these days though. When I was first leveling whm, it was an option to powerlevel or not. These days, with the lack of regular non-abyssea pt's, it's not an option...you have to leech sometimes if you want to get past 40 or 50.

I do hope that people try to get levels the old way (I'm not going to say right, because right for one person isn't necessarily right for another) because leveling the old way is what honed my instinct as a whm to allow me to be as valuable as I am to my pt's and events today. I know my job inside and out, and that is 100% from grinding for 75 levels and failing a lot of times...quite often in stupid ways lol, but if I hadn't had that experience, I wouldn't know how to fix it or get past it in Abyssea.

PS. Good luck to the OP in skilling up BRD...you've chosen a difficult job to master, and I can't say that I've ever tried it, so totally....good luck, keep asking questions and you'll be great :)

You guys are arguing with the type of terrible player who still manages not to know how FFXI works. "Who needs haste on my waist when I can have TWELVE Accuracy and FOUR Attack!? Brutal Earring just can't compare to THREE Accuracy! TPing in CHR gear because BSTs need CHR! Don't roll with that CHEATING stuff from Abyssea or Trial of the Magians, not REAL FFXI, you know! I KNOW how to play PLD because I LEVELED IT 1-75 the REAL WAY and the REAL WAY to play PLD is with JSE like earrings that give -30% Spell Interrupt when I have less than 25% HP BECAUSE WHEN I PLAY PLD MY HP DROPS THAT LOW V. FREQUENTLY. THIS. IS. FFXI!!!!!"

Also, Powerdoll would like to thank you for buying a Vermin Earring, darn thing just would not sell for six months!

Enhances "Plantoid Killer" effect: Worth 150,000 gil.

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

If you're a REAL player I'd rather have some fake ones. Stop being terribad.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/569...yer-thread-III

OMG, some players exping the REAL way in 2008 were bad? Holy crap.

EDIT: you know what? let's just link images from the first page of the thread. There are about 400 pages total before Abyssea, by the way.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...lltimesam2.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...lltimesam1.jpg

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8360/lolpldeb1.jpg

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y27.../wutkraken.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...411_143056.png

http://i26.tinypic.com/296kvox.jpg

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/1...ientpldff2.png

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...412_220520.png

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...412_224550.jpg

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...yffxi/gimp.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...413_085941.png

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...413_085930.png

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...413_085906.png

Over the top? Maybe. But you have to realise you have rose-tinted glasses!

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Oh using a torque tp tp in that gives you skill is bad???
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h2...lltimesam1.jpg

Anyways if I SS every bad player since abyssea came out to 5 years from now i bet you it would be 800 pages worth of SS.

2 days ago i seen TWO blms in an abyssea party that could not get azure kills so my friend returning end up timing out. it was a good pt before then, i wish i had the time to change to blu for him ><

I seen a WHM full timing 5/5 emp NQ gear while having say macros of na spells

I seen MP gear PLDs, level 10 scythe drks, mp gear blms, full time nuking in dark staff and so on.

yes there was bad players in the past, there be bad players now, but abyssea makes that amount worse and the gimp "factor" worse.

I never had someone have the audacity y to bring a level 10 scythe to a pt at 75 but now it is ok with abyssea.

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Oh using a torque tp tp in that gives you skill is bad???

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Way to miss the rest of it.

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Anyways if I SS every bad player since abyssea came out to 5 years from now i bet you it would be 800 pages worth of SS.

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No, it keeps it the same. Gimps will be gimps.

And get a Gandiva!

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Originally Posted by RaenRyong

Way to miss the rest of it.



No, it keeps it the same. Gimps will be gimps.

And get a Gandiva!

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keeps it the same? abyssea made more gimps now vs past -.- I gave some examples.

there are different levels of "gimp" being picky about someone's tp set =/= gear so horrid you cannot get the job done ( like my comment about 2 blm that was in one of my abyssea exp pt)