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    Raid Dungeon Info Translated (Q/A)

    JP Reps responded to some raid dungeon related questions so translated them for you guys since I didn't see the official English response.

    Translation may not be correct so adding original text with translation on bottom. Give the credit to the original people who quoted each text if you agree to them. Click on the blue arrow next to their name in the quote – (goes to the original quoted post if you didn’t know.) Don't take my translation as 100% correct as some info may be wrong, I'm just translating the best I can for you guys.

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    Question was made by Lava_Lash on the JP forum side regarding the difficulty of the new raid dungeons not being posted on the topics aside from new gear and some info on the new areas – Foxclon – JP Rep responded as following:

    Original Thread Link: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/13513

    Quote Originally Posted by Foxclon View Post
    こんにちは。

    今回実装されるレイドダンジョンは、一言で言えば「高難易度」と想定されています。中でも特に皆さんが気にされているボスモンスターの難易度について、開発チームと確認してきました。

    ゼメール要塞の場合ですと、特技ランク508PTが役割を明確にしたうえで、且つ単に通常の敵の強い版ということではなく、ボスモンスターにあった専用の戦い方をしないと倒すことができないとのことでした。

    私自身もまだ触れていませんが、これは楽しみですね


    Hello,


    To answer you questions regarding difficulty of raid dungeon they are set up to be “Hard” also checked with the dev team regarding the boss monster difficulty.


    For example in Dzemael Darkhold with 8 people party of rank 50, it doesn’t necessary mean it is just harder version of the dungeon, you will have to fight in a specific way to defeat the boss monster.


    I haven’t touched it myself but this is interesting

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    Question were asked by people if the 4 people and 8 people specific means it has to have a party of 4 or 8 to enter these new raid dungeons or if you can have lower than the amount required to try and solo, duo, trio, etc… Foxclon checked and responded with the following:

    Original Thread Link: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/14063

    Quote Originally Posted by Foxclon View Post
    こんにちは。

    レイドダンジョンの人数制限に関して、吉田Pと確認してきました。

    パッチ1.18で追加される予定のレイドダンジョンの人数制限は
    • トトラクの千獄:4PT限定
    • ゼーメル要塞:8PT限定

    となっています。

    ここでいう「4PT限定」というのは、「4人でPTを組んでいる必要がある」の意味で、4人以外(例えば3PT5PT)では入場することができません。8人の場合も同様です。

    回の初のレイドダンジョンの導入に当たっては、バランス調整の観点およびサーバー負荷の観点から、上記のような決め打ちの人数制限となっていますが、今後実装していくものに関しては、実際に1.18でプレイしていただいたフィードバックや利用頻度/状況などを踏まえ、人数制限に関しても様々なバリエーションのものが実装されていく予定です。

    なお吉田より、「8PT限定のゼーメル要塞のボスからの報酬は相当良いものですので、是非ともトライしてみてください!」とのことでした。


    Hello,


    I have checked with Yoshida producer regarding the number of players required for the raid dungeon


    In patch 1.18 the number of players required will be as following.

    • The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak : 4 party members required
    • The Dzemael Darkhold: 8 party member required
    Due to the server load and looking from balance perspective it will be as above for now. Once after releasing in 1.18 and being played we will look/listen to player feedback we will release different variations of players required.

    Per Yoshida producer he says “8 party required Dzemael Darkhold holds a really good reward, so please give a try.”


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    Damn I wanted to try solo to see how far I can make it in these dungeons to test my skills... orz I guess that's not happening /sigh /cry

    Personally I think its kind of getting lame when they keep on saying server load, server problem, server issue... Really... what kind of server they running???? I thought it was best available in the market when FFXIV was first being made...
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    Last edited by Reinheart; 06-22-2011 at 12:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    Personally I think its kind of getting lame when they keep on saying server load, server problem, server issue... Really... what kind of server they running???? I thought it was best available in the market when FFXIV was first being made...
    Well if its anything like the closed beta servers.....
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    I know its nice to solo things others cant (ala RDM in XI).

    But, don't forget - you have an unexplored battle system and job/class reforms comming.

    SE seem to be talking post 1.18 "difficulty".

    yay for more pessimism.
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    Last edited by Kam; 06-23-2011 at 09:57 AM.

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    Ah, the dreaded server/core programming issue strikes again.

    Maybe they should hold off on ANY kind of changes until they complete the game's engine and server infrastructure. This is ridiculous.
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    fight in a specific way to defeat the boss monster.
    For me this reads "Gimmick Fight", once we find out what it is we can abuse it making the encounter more or less trivial.
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    I think I just read this exact info in another thread.
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    Morticous - Senior admin of.... well of nothing. (cool picture here)

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    What happens if someone dc's in the middle of the raid? everyone fails?

    And if not, what's stopping a THM from joining an 8 man party and having everyone drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morticous View Post
    I think I just read this exact info in another thread.
    ya rentahamster translated this same day before me and i didnt see it so did one also lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeking View Post
    For me this reads "Gimmick Fight", once we find out what it is we can abuse it making the encounter more or less trivial.
    what do you propose? a zerging Faf/nid fight? a lame Tortis fight? Yawning Mammets? Laughable crag runs? Renarned Odins chamber fights? these new dungeons couldnt be a any more trivial.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    Considering the posts so far.

    wtf is it exactly you're asking for?

    well besides wolfies point...
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    Last edited by Kam; 06-23-2011 at 10:20 AM.

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