Thread: .3 Second Positional Update Delay (Requesting Dev Response)

FF14 is basically reinventing the wheel, except the FF14 wheel is also a square. The average MMORPG fan has far better knowledge about a MMORPG's netcode by the virtue of the fact that the average MMORPG has played many MMORPG where the netcode is not an issue at all. Suppose you are hired to design the netcode for the next big MMORPG. You'd probably say like: "Okay find someone who worked on WoW before and ask him how it's done". If no one from WoW is available you can try another MMOPRG, and assuming you played a decent number of MMORPGs it'd be pretty easy to eventually find some guy who worked on a MMORPG you played before that has acceptable netcode, and you'd have a workable game.

It should be obvious this is not how FF14's netcode is built, because there are no MMORPG that's quite like it (I guess people say it's like FF11, but in that case no other MMORPG ever had a netcode like FF11 either). While innovation isn't bad, there's a reason why we don't constantly reinvent the wheel, and certainly we don't invent the wheel into a square one.

Originally Posted by Naelle

You guys are right, SE is conspiring against you. I'm leaving this thread as it's just 50 pages of "Hell hath no fury...".

You are just full of...

Years of IT doesn't make you an expert in anything. The issue lies on SEs end, not on the customer. It may be worse for some over others, based on their location...doesn't change the fact that this should not be an issue at all, no matter from where you are connecting to the servers. Not to mention that I have yet to play an MMORPG that has the same problem. MMORPGs from back in 1999 did a better job at this, then SE does right now...

You denying that doesn't make it any less true.

I got killed standing behind the stone in Garuda. Ran, stood, then bang... Flattened.

Still need an answer SE.

Originally Posted by Sunarie

I'll say this bit again. If lag/latency alone cause people to get hit by AOEs they were out of, then this issue would be present in every single MMO on the market. It's not, because that isn't the cause. It aggravates it, but isn't the root cause.

And I'll say this again - Until someone can state that this is a universal problem while ignoring that plenty of people don't have this issue and some that did have this problem alleviated it by getting a new router, contacting their ISP or upgrading their machines, you can't ignore the possibility of there being an end-user issue.

There's a lot of "No it's not me, it's SE! Netcode! FFXIV! Servers!" but so very little of "I tried x!, I tried y!" I mean, how is it that without changing my router or ISP packages that I went from having issues like this to no issues simply by upgrading my PC..? Wouldn't what you and most others in this topic state mean that my issues still should have persisted with that full upgrade I did..?

We have to face facts, as much as we want to believe it simply can't be an issue on the end-user side, there's a lot of variables, because I wouldn't see people dodge stuff ever if it's solely on the shoulders of SE. Fyi, you keep ignoring that most other MMOs don't have their data considered as P2P, which once again, many ISPs throttle and XIV's data has been determined by many iSPs as "P2P (Torrent)" type traffic. There's a problem that exists, but as much as people want to spout:

"You're ignoring this is a real issue"

People still seem to ignore there's the possibility there's an issue on your end somewhere when it comes to this game specifically. I know my old PC was very old, I wasn't even over the 56mb traffic wired let alone wireless, so could my new motherboard or GPU have solved my "get hit out of red ring" issue? Or did SE just flip a switch and decide I can suddenly dodge stuff now? Variables.

Neither myself or any people I play with have an issue with this.

Not a single person has an issue in my FC, who has 4 groups on T5.

Originally Posted by Someonewithclap

Neither myself or any people I play with have an issue with this.

Not a single person has an issue in my FC, who has 4 groups on T5.

Honestly, good for you guys. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist for a lot of people. This is going to cost some people spots in raid groups. If I can't get into end game groups because I keep getting hit by AOEs out side of the damage area, then why pay for the game once I finish the story?

Originally Posted by Versiroth

Honestly, good for you guys. But, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist for a lot of people.

And no one says it doesn't exist - The problem is the people with the problem simply choose to believe it's a problem with SE/Game only and it absolutely can't be an issue on their end somewhere. By "their end" either what you use to play the game or your ISP or some other middleman. Thing is, Ms Eara there wouldn't be able to dodge anything nor anyone in her FC if there was a definitely source of the problem.

Like I've said, a game doesn't selective work for some people and choose not to for others without there being a variable to decide: "I think I want to malfunction for you "