Thread: .3 Second Positional Update Delay (Requesting Dev Response)

Originally Posted by Sixmp

SE have commented on this. I offered other solutions to lag problems. As chances of every single person with lag all having the exact same problem is very low. I guess you are either too stubborn or irritated to take a look at your own stuff in the chance it might fix your problem when you can sit with you arms folded throwing a strop and holding your breath.

So i'm ignorant now lol? Okie little one. Whatever you say. You accuse others of starting arguments, and yet you come into this thread and totally try to derail it? My stuff HAS been tested mister know everything. And infact everything i have is designed just for online gaming. And judging by the fact that i have no issues with any other game i play online, just this one, kinda makes me think this is a fault with SE. But i guess since you're here to say it's our stuff, we should take your word for it, because we're ignorant and you're not.

Originally Posted by DeceptionsWrath

So i'm ignorant now lol? Okie little one. Whatever you say. You accuse others of starting arguments, and yet you come into this thread and totally try to derail it? My stuff HAS been tested mister know everything. And infact everything i have is designed just for online gaming.

Does all of the games you play online handle its data as P2P on official servers? Streams are always P2P to some extent but XIV's is pretty much like you're running a torrent progam.

Originally Posted by Tupsi

Does all of the games you play online handle its data as P2P on official servers? Streams are always P2P to some extent but XIV's is pretty much like you're running a torrent progam.

I'm really not sure Tupsi. The games i have played are FFXI, DCUO, Defiance and FFXIV. I'm not sure who handles their data as a P2P. To be honest i wasn't even sure there was a difference haha.

Originally Posted by Sixmp

If you look back you will see i offered help. I then got a mouthful off 2-3 people and here we are. I never stated i knew everything. I just offered things that might be overlooked. If you are 100% sure that all your equipment and ISP are 100% fine then fair enough. It is no reason to stomp on someone who basically tried to be helpful.

You sound pretty hostile to me.

People complaining about the lag issues aren't riding their first rodeo. We've played other online games without this lag. I've played other new MMOs that suffered from problems like this.

Denialism is not helping the game. I sincerely hope Square doesn't dismiss their netcode, animation delays, graphics engine, whatever problems as merely random complaints. It's borderline game-breaking given the mechanics they've programmed in.

Originally Posted by Dliver

You sound pretty hostile to me.

People complaining about the lag issues aren't riding their first rodeo. We've played other online games without this lag. I've played other new MMOs that suffered from problems like this.

Denialism is not helping the game. I sincerely hope Square doesn't dismiss their netcode, animation delays, graphics engine, whatever problems as merely random complaints. It's borderline game-breaking given the mechanics they've programmed in.

Please tell me how this is hostile...

So have all you people tried anything to fix this issue yourselves? I mean it is all well and good pointing the finger at SE but it would effect everyone if it was something SE could fix.
Why would some people lag and other not lag?
I am in the UK and i can get out of circles without problem. I do not lag either unless it is a really busy area and that is normal for an MMO.
Have you guys tried turning your game graphics down as low as it can go for instance?
How about plugging your router into the Master Socket (for phone line users)
Just because lots of people lag doesn't mean you are all suffering from the same cause.
How about moving cordless phones away from routers?
Not using wireless?
Even mobile phones can effect things.

This is not hostile, this asking straight forward questions. Not everybody has the same level of knowledge. Offering help is now a crime is it? Just because some people are effected by the issues in this thread are you suggesting that it is impossible for someone to stumble into the thread and mistake all the talk of lag and mistake it for some other easy to fix problem?

Originally Posted by Sixmp

Please tell me how this is hostile...

Again, your denialism is annoying beyond belief.

I can assure you I've played WoW, Rift and SWTOR on this comp without significant lag issues. This game, no. There are lag spikes, there are animation delays, there are unregistered actions, there are problems.

These problems are very similar to what I saw in the very early days of SWTOR. So I have every reason to believe it's a fixable issue on Square's end.

I have no reason to believe you, and you have no reason to suggest that other people are somehow at fault for their lag, throwing out obvious suggestions that aren't helpful at all.

If you have an actual suggestion that could cause lag in just this game and not every other online activity, please suggest it. In the meantime, your denialism offends me.

Originally Posted by Tupsi

Does all of the games you play online handle its data as P2P on official servers? Streams are always P2P to some extent but XIV's is pretty much like you're running a torrent progam.

This games protocol and implementation is nothing like bittorrent or other Peer To Peer systems. In FFXIV your client will maintain two connections to your world server, that's it. In a peer to peer system your client (a peer) will connect directly to other peers (other clients). This is a client to server system.

It is possible that the FFXIV protocol has some signature that is causing a false positive with another P2P protocol. Of course, that would have been easy to fix on SEs side if it were the case.

Originally Posted by Sixmp

1 hop on route to a server could cause a problem in 1 game leaving all others fine.
1 game being treated as P2P while all others are not could cause problems in one game leaving all others fine.
Also if all other game servers are your own country and you have defective hardware this could hide lag that would show up far more on a server outside your own country.
Also i was not saying that there was not a delay on SE end. It is well documented. I only pointed out that some people may stumble into this thread and stop looking for fixes.

Dude, enough. This thread is not about network lag. Unfortunately many people keep using that word. Lag != Position update delay. I could plug directly into their hubs in the data center and the position update delay would still be a thing. It is a thing for everyone. EVEYRONE!

So people coming to this thread to comment who are effected by the design flaw more than others, can we please stop using the word Lag here. It gets inane useless comments like the ones from this user, which in a thread about network latency would actually be relevant. Lets call it PUD if we need to refer to it in three letters.

Personally my game play is largely unaffected, mostly because I get 90 FPS almost everywhere. Even when my system bogs my FPS does not dip low enough for any frames to be lost. People with lower end pcs that suffer frame loss will be very effected by this.