Originally Posted by RinaShinomiya

I think Healers could benefit a lot from a new Skill system that fuses cooldown skills with non-cooldown skills.
For example since you brought up Druochole, fuse it together with Taurochole. Every 45s you'll get Taurochole when pressing the button but when it's on cooldown it becomes Druochole. That way you reduce button bloat without "hurting" the toolkit.
It's possible to do this right now with Macros but it's obv. not optimal because the macro system is what it is.

Fusing skills is a good idea - white mage can definitely use them with Aquaveil and Divine Bension. AST can certainly use some with their card effects. Undraw can be removed. Minor Arcana can be auto-drawn every 60 seconds so ASTs would only need to play the card, rather than dedicate 2 buttons to do one thing. To be honest, Minor Arcana could probably be fused with just the regular Draw/Play system as well. Every time an AST Draws, it gives a stacking buff (Minor Arcana) in addition to the regular drawn card. Reaching 2 stacks removes all the current stacks and gives you one Minor Arcana card already on the gauge and waiting to be played.

Fusing skills on sage with their addersgall healing is functionally a bad idea. You want to separate Druochole from Taurochole only because Taurochole's mitigation buff is non-stackable with kerachole, so you'd be overwriting and reducing the amount of time you can give a tank / party member mitigation rather than extending the total duration of time. Even if they were stackable, % mitigation abilities stack multiplicatively, so there are diminishing returns when you factor in other mitigations used as well. Sometimes a sage would want to use Durochole only to spend addersgall when they're about to overcap resource generation to regenerate MP on use, but save a more potent addersgall healing ability like Taurochole for when people do need healing and that extra mitigation 20 seconds later. In my opinion, sage's addersgall and their healing toolkit is actually one of the more functional toolkit designs that has been very well streamlined and presents a decent level of healing optimization.

The only issue with Sage is that it just suffers from a lack of variety in DPS actions when everyone's safe from harm. No level of healing optimization can be fun if there's nothing that requires it.

Originally Posted by Rika007

WHM:
-Axe Cure 3 Entirely.

Why axe Cure III when you could just make it a WHM feature?
Font of Light (Trait) - Your Medica and Medica III can now target an ally, healing party members within 8 yalms of self or your target for a further 200 potency.

(No additional MP cost.)

Originally Posted by Shurrikhan

Why axe Cure III when you could just make it a WHM feature?
Font of Light (Trait) - Your Medica and Medica III can now target an ally, healing party members within 8 yalms of self or your target for a further 200 potency.

(No additional MP cost.)

Thats another good idea too. We're just basically saying that you can have easier fixes with the healer's toolkits if we just change or cut out some of the healing button bloats to have more dps or support options for those classes without having to complicate the hotbars.

Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur

Thats another good idea too. We're just basically saying that you can have easier fixes with the healer's toolkits if we just change or cut out some of the healing button bloats to have more dps or support options for those classes without having to complicate the hotbars.

Sure, but we may as well not trim any unique capacities we already have if such needn't cost us any button anyways.

Point I was making is that it can be done, and those were abilities that I personally would not mind losing save for Synastry as it is arguably the most unique healing ability healers have it just needs to work with more than 2 buttons (I still don't understand why it doesn't)

Originally Posted by SeverianLyonesse

Repose is for dungeons. It might not get much use, but it still has a niche and it's not hurting anyone being in healers' kits.

Repose's only use outside of the healer role quest is arguably HoH and PotD. And even then, BLM's Sleep is better. It can 100% be removed if Synastry can.

Undraw should've been removed back in Shb. It is by far the most useless skill in the game across all classes. Period. There is 0 reason for an AST to want to drop a card. It isn't even on my bars. Same with Repose.

Originally Posted by ASkellington

Repose's only use outside of the healer role quest is arguably HoH and PotD. And even then, BLM's Sleep is better. It can 100% be removed if Synastry can.

Undraw should've been removed back in Shb. It is by far the most useless skill in the game across all classes. Period. There is 0 reason for an AST to want to drop a card. It isn't even on my bars. Same with Repose.

Repose also works in Eureka / Bozja.

100% agreed on Undraw. There is zero reason to ever NOT play a card.

I miss early Astrologian, when the cards actually meant something. That's what drew me to the job. It was different. Now it isn't. So now I'm drawn to the Sage. I wonder how long it'll be before the Sage gets deprived of everything that makes it unique.

Originally Posted by Kikoten

So now I'm drawn to the Sage. I wonder how long it'll be before the Sage gets deprived of everything that makes it unique.

Not sure when sage will no longer be unique. Perhaps you should ask scholars. :^)

Just jumping back in to say the last few pages of discourse have been extremely positive and it just shows what an actual discussion can do. There are clearly various ways that you can make healing more engaging (or making playing a healer more engaging even when not healing), and there's clearly an open discussion that can be had if the devs were just willing to have it.

Originally Posted by StriderShinryu

Just jumping back in to say the last few pages of discourse have been extremely positive and it just shows what an actual discussion can do. There are clearly various ways that you can make healing more engaging (or making playing a healer more engaging even when not healing), and there's clearly an open discussion that can be had if the devs were just willing to have it.

I mean, it's literally all we want. We just want our role to be able to be engaging so we don't feel like when there's downtime, it's mindless 1-2 button spam. The only other time we really are engaged is when we actually do have to heal damage, which is what a healer role is for. I'm hoping that the EN Community Team is bothering to connect the dots here with the JP Team considering Healers may become rare yet again because of this. SGE brought plenty of people into the Healer role alone just because it looked more unique and engaging, but once the 'shiny new job' effects wore off people realized it's the same damage set-up.

Also, I'm going to straight up ask: Are people even happy with WHM the way it is?