I have a couple questions regarding end game. I beat Praetorium over the weekend and have been working on CM runs for tomestones and my relic weapons. If anyone can answer I would greatly appreciate it.
CM: This is basically a speed run question. I play on PS3, so I don't know if this is affecting me. When we get to the part where we start using cannons, I can't seem to make them fire. And I mean I can't make ANY of them fire. All 3 sets, from the 2 sets during the run through we use to quickly kill mobs to the anti magitek ones we use to destroy Livia's magitek armor. None of them work for me.
Since I'm DPS, this is kind of a problem. I haven't lost yet a CM run yet because of this, but I'm tired of frustrating people at the end when they time the shots. What I do, is interact with the cannon (by hitting X). Then my cross hotbar changes to Set 1+ and it gives me the Icon for Cannonfire. (For me I hold R1+circle to initiate skill) When I hit R1+circle, the AOE icon comes up on the screen and lets me aim. Then when I hit R1+circle again, nothing happens. I know nothing is happening because in my party list I see the cooldown action for Cannonfire happening on other DPS screens except for mine.
Am I doing something wrong, or is this glitched on PS3? Please tell me I'm doing something wrong.
AK: This is just a basic question. I have finished the Dhorme Chimera and now I'm at the point of my Artemis Bow quest where I have to beat AK. Is this dungeon beatable with Artifact armor and 1 piece of DL? Basically, I want opinions on what a MINIMUM set of armor should be to tackle AK.
Thanks again to anyone who answers honestly.
CM/AK questions. SPOILER!!
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10-01-2013, 12:02 AMJayCommonCM/AK questions. SPOILER!!
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10-01-2013, 12:04 AMBlazn
I was running AK with AF and level 40 accessories at the start so I'd say it's doable as far as the cannons go I have no idea about ps3 on here.
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10-01-2013, 12:07 AMAlavastre
AK, if you're DPS, you should grind Ifrit until you have the Ifrit Weapon. I would suggest 2 or 3 pieces of DL. This is because the Demon Wall is a DPS race.
Don't know about the cannons as I play on the PC. But if you can't interact with them, it's probably better to let the group know, a healer or tank can jump on it for you. -
10-01-2013, 12:08 AMTaruLala
As for aiming/firing the cannons on controller. Once you've got your aiming reticule up. Release your trigger for your hotbar and press X (or whatever your confirm button is). I had an awkward moment trying BLM Limit Break (they work the same way) for the first time on controller because i was having the same issue you have with firing off the ground target AOE.
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10-01-2013, 12:11 AMlololink
ifrit weapons for Deamon wall ? Are you mad? I did this with a team that only had they AF and the lvl 44 GC weapon, if you play well you can do it. You need a good gear but skill is important too.
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10-01-2013, 12:23 AMJayCommonYeah, this is definitely what I have been doing, but I can tell that the tanks still get frustrated, when a healer has to stop healing to fire a cannon I should be able to fire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alavastre
Awesome info! I will try this out when I get home from work today. Thanks! And honestly, now that you say that, I should have known. My Flame Arrow AOE works in exactly the same way. :facepalm:Quote:
Originally Posted by TaruLala
To all, thanks for the quick responses! I have skill, and from the sounds of it my gear is decent enough for AK as long as my team is good. My FC members should be good enough for this fight. -
10-01-2013, 12:23 AMBoomerOU
Buy a gc weapon or the level 50 green and youre fine for AK in AF. I did this for my first run and the other dps only had AF and some leveling grey weapon. Demon wall went down. Its not a gear intensive dungeon at all.
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10-01-2013, 12:39 AMRillifane
Seems some people are missing out running wanderer's palace for lvl 50 green gear and weapon/offhand drops which more than gears you enough to run AK smoothly plus gives some tomes to work towards darklight.
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10-01-2013, 12:42 AMAlavastreYou can do a lot of things. Doesn't mean you should.Quote:
Originally Posted by lololink
Also, it's not that hard. Just might take you a while and you'll have a weapon that's better than drops and your GC 50. Why not stear some one in the right direction and not making their life difficult? You need your Ifrit weapon at some point anyways, just go get it. -
10-01-2013, 12:43 AMashikenshin
last week I ran with two dps who recently got to 50. We did fine in AK. I used to think it was a DPS check but it's just a dodge check. DPS was low during trash and bosses but my mana didn't dip below 50% because they required almost no healing.
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10-01-2013, 12:44 AMAmyasThis. I geared up accidentally in WP before the story, its more than enough to last you till AK drops. Also the weps that drop at the end are the equivalent to the GC ltn weps, so if you don't want to farm Fates for seals, try TWP. Great for learning some harder dungeon mechanics too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rillifane
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10-01-2013, 12:54 AMFawkesI gave up on Wanderer's Palace after consistently wiping on the boss every time, run after run. It seems too difficult for random duty finder groups.Quote:
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10-01-2013, 01:19 AMStudReaver
I play on ps3 and i have this issue however my hotbar doesnt even change. On the boss all i can do is load the weapon which is really annoying.
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10-01-2013, 01:25 AMBahramThis is a joke, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alavastre
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10-01-2013, 02:05 AMAlavastreSee previous comments.Quote:
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10-01-2013, 02:48 AMJayCommon
Yeah I did a run on TWP and actually did get a ilvl 55 belt, which has already been replaced with DL :)
TWP isn't so bad if the tank knows how to kite Tonberry King. But yeah, I can see how DF could potentially suck for running that dungeon. I would also say that maybe the members who do know what they are doing can also do a bit better at explaining most things, at least that's my experience from the DF. But, it does come down to tank skill for that boss more than anything, so if tank is lacking you prob won't win the match.
Based off opinions here I think I will be ok the way I'm currently geared. I thought it was funny when someone told me to get the lv 50 GC weapon before i do AK..... lol...can't get that weapon UNTIL I beat AK. But yeah, thx everyone for the comments. I will most likely try and get Ifrit weapon first. I know most of y'all said I don't need it, but maybe you aren't as familiar with how ruthless ppl in the DF can be :\
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10-01-2013, 02:55 AMIgnnis
On ps3 the cannons have that irritating aim circle that's a pain in the bum to aim. Just r2 + circle, aim then hit x. Remember to take your fingers off r2 + circle.
On another note me trying to cast shadow flare on smn is a pain in the royal bum on the controller because naturally I hold my r/l 2 button so once I aim my aoe I hit x and do the skill in r/l 2 + x instead of shadow flare. I should move it but I'm using to having miasma 2 there xD -
10-01-2013, 03:00 AMEcks007I can't really comment on the PS3 since I play on PC. That being said, I can answer your AK question. DPS really need to have at least the Ifrit Weapon when doing AK, and in general you should have at least 3-4 DL accessories before doing AK, though of course the actual DL armor itself would also be a big help, but not 100% needed as long as you have most of the DL accessories. Naturally, having the Accessories and armor will make this that much smoother.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayCommon
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10-01-2013, 03:05 AMRillifaneWoah woah kite? lol all the tank needs to do is stand in the middle and keep him in the middle of the room and 1 dps kill the adds never allowing the stacks to go over 3 for a paladin and 4 for a warrior and the healer keeps the tank topped off (whm applys fresh stroneskin before grudge and scholar does adloquium) , other dps stays on the boss full time. It's as easy as that no kiting needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by JayCommon
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10-01-2013, 04:45 AMJayCommonIt's as easy as that when you have a full group that knows what to do. Our other DPS kept killing adds too fast and when I began killing adds healer couldnt keep our tank topped off. DF groups suck so we had to improvise. Luckily my brother is a good tank so he kept kiting the King around and we didnt kill any adds and won our first time that way. Give DF ppl too many responsibilities and things get crazy fast!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rillifane