So I can't make threads outside of this area of the forum, and I have a lot of questions. I was told it was because my level wasn't high enough in the game, but I'm level 28! Anyone of you guys capable of telling me what's needed?
I have a lot of questions about this game and as I'm new to MMO's in general I'm really enjoying it but playing in duties I'm constantly getting cursed at for not playing the 'right' way. No one though wants to take the time to tell me what I'm doing is wrong. I only just found out what pulling to early means, and that was after someone spent the better part of 10 minutes lighting up my chat box going off on me.
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09-28-2013, 05:06 AMRika007Can't make Threads outside of this Area
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09-28-2013, 05:22 AMsurrel
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...17#post1015217
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09-28-2013, 05:24 AMRika007No. And just to make sure I haven't done any drunk posting, I went and checked my previous posts, and the first one in here and two others about 3 weeks ago are all I have made. This was the first thread I have ever created.Quote:
Originally Posted by surrel
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09-28-2013, 05:28 AMRahspdoySometimes it takes a day or two for their wanky forums to catch up to the actual game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rika007
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09-28-2013, 05:33 AMRika007Thanks. And I see you are also an archer. Would it be ok if I asked you some questions here then? Cause honestly I'm loving this game for storyline alone and main quests, but when it comes to actually getting into a duty and doing a dungeon, I'm hopelessly lost. My girlfriend plays as a healer, and her job is pretty easy, just point on whoever is in trouble and heal them, or crank out all the protection spells. Me on the other hand, people get mad at me and no one seems to bother wanting to explain what I'm doing wrong. I've only died once in an entire dungeon, and I make a lot of kills, but it doesnt stop the tank normally from cursing me out for no end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahspdoy
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09-28-2013, 05:50 AMRyihitoYou are just being grouped in with jerks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rika007
That, or you are pissing them off and keep taking aggro off the tank, but I don't want to assume you do that.
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09-28-2013, 05:52 AMTomiangu
I must have been lucky so far, no one cursed at me yet. Even though I was the cause for a wipe once. I usually ask if there is anything special in the dungeon and let them know that this is my first run at it. Sometimes I even skip the cut scene.
May be good to Google the particular dungeon too just to have an idea what's in there and what to actually kill, although I haven't done that myself yet.
As a rule of thumb I keep in mind to kill everything around the hard to kill boss and let the tank keep the aggro on it. Once nothing spawns any more, let loose on it and kite lots. -
09-28-2013, 06:02 AMRika007Here's the problem, I hear people shouting about aggro and tank, and I have no idea what that means at all. So I really wouldn't know what stealing it is or how I would even be doing it. I don't need a run down on an entire dungeon, or even bosses, I guess just a better way to be an archer where I'm not pissing people off? Some of them even were cursing out my girlfriend because she would heal me when she should have just let me get KO'd because of all the mistakes I was making.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryihito
Anyway I just wanna know how to do the job better in Dungeons so at the bare minimum I'm not ticking people off. I wish I knew what I was doing wrong so I could give more specifics. But yeah, I thought my job as an archer was to set back and nail people with thins that decrease there abilities or inflict status ailments, while at the same time blasting away with arrows and just being an all around ranged combat nuisance. If that's not it then what is? -
09-28-2013, 06:21 AMRahspdoyAggro: Gamer term for the 'aggression' of a monster, and who it is currently attacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rika007
The 'tanks' job in a dungion is to basically 'aggro' all of the mobs and keep them attacking him and only him. The Healers job is to keep him alive, and us DPS's, (Archers, lancers, BLM's, Pugalists) our job is to do the 'damage' to the mob to kill it, as well as kill any 'small' monsters that 'add in' (spawn durring the fight to 'help' the larger monster).
When in a party as an archer (or any dps based class), Our role is to simply attack the monsters in whatever order the group leader or tank decides. While also quickly killing any of the 'adds' that show up. Now, for 'order' i mean that when the tank attacks a group of monsters, he will try to get them all attacking him, while he himself attacks 1 of the group of monsters. As a DPS, you need to make sure you are 'also' attacking the SAME monster he is. If you attack one that he is not (but is still hitting him), there is the chance you will 'pull' that monster off of him (you will get the 'aggro' of that monster away from the tank). This makes the Tank have to chase the monster down to get it back to hitting him.
Now this does not mean that you have to 'always' only attack what the tank is. You'll learn threw experience what monsters in dungions you can quickly kill on your own (the 'adds' in boss fights, the small mobs scattered around the dungions that are 'next to' the larger mobs.. that sorta thing). These you can kill quickly and should do so befor returning your attention to the monster the tank is currently hitting. -
09-28-2013, 06:23 AMKrazarianI am new here, but not to MMO's. In all MMO's with the trinity in it it is always a good idea to let tank grab aggro and kill trash or wait a few seconds that he/she has built enough hate to keep the boss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rika007
It can take seconds or lil longer depending on tank and there abilitities. Laying right into things before a tank has established themselves will always get you cursed or yelled at because makes the fight so much harder on healers and tank chasing the mobs you are kiting around.
Never kite a mob if you see tank trying to get aggro back or get control of it from you. Stop and take a hit or two so tank can taunt or such off of you. If to scared to stop then kite it around tank so he can get it from you.
Watch group follow tanks lead and what is dying at time and kill it and you should be fine.
EDIT: someone beat me to it great explanation above Rahspdoy -
09-28-2013, 06:55 AMRahspdoyQuote:
Originally Posted by Krazarian
I try :)
Also, a tip. To get around this stupid 1000 character limit on posts... Type of the post you want to make, then try to post it. When it complains about how many characters you have, Highlight all but the first sentence of your post, and 'copy' it, then delete all of what you had highlighted. Then 'post' that partial bit. After the web-page refreshes, immediately edit your post and 'paste' back in what you had cut out. Then 'save' your edit.
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09-28-2013, 06:58 AMOrophin
As a damage dealer you want to focus on the target that your tank marks or focuses on. This is situational of course. If you have a mob that peels off the tank and is running towards your healer, it wouldn't be a bad idea to throw a shadowbind at it.
Anyway, there's a few ways to determine what you should be attacking:
- Tank marks 1st priority target with a symbol
- If tank doesn't mark, usually the first mob he pulls will be the main target.
- For multiple mob packs (3 or more) and your tank doesn't mark, since you're playing archer it would be worthwhile to move in and do your Quick Nock ability once so that you can hit all of the mobs and they display in your HUD under the enemy party widget. That way you can see which mobs are constantly losing HP and that should be your focus target.
- There's also an /assist command you can use when targeting your tank (can make a macro for it) to see which mob the tank is currently attacking.
This game functions a little differently from other MMOs, as back in the day you'd usually have a designated puller who'd bring back a monster to the group. Since tanks have ranged attacks it just makes more sense for them to pull, especially since their ranged abilities have enmity built into them.
In a nutshell, try to follow your tank's targets and you shouldn't have too many issues. Watch the threat meter through the enemy party widget which is color coded (green, yellow, orange, flashing orange, red in order from lowest to highest threat) and watch the numbers on the ally party list as those indicate which position in threat you are for the currently targeted monster. Managing threat as a damage dealer is important. Once you can do that you should have a more enjoyable experience. -
09-28-2013, 07:19 AMKrazarianThx yeah had longer post before but limit killed me thx for info!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahspdoy