What is housing for exactly?

Hello,

I have seen the videos during live letter about housing that some FC can buy but I am still unsure what the purpose is... Is it only for the FC to have a place to gather?

If yes, is it worth putting loads of gils in it when you could define any place as your HQ?

I hope we can get more information soon because I still have no clue if housing will change anything.

i remember watching the stream of someone who did a breakdown of what housing does after the initial interview. i recall smth along the line of bonuses to crafting etc, and i also recall him mentioning that breeding seems to be possible if you purchase your own house.

as for the non-practical aspects of merely gathering everyone - this is an mmo, whose objective is immersion. maybe with so many free mmo out there, its essence has been diminished, but my experiences frm ffxi tells me that the mere act of gathering tgt is heaps fun.

Housing is a customizable Inn room. Probably will give bonuses and extra storage based on items you have inside.

Same thing as minions dyes and character design.

Oh, hope we can have gardening and junk.

Nostalgia?

/10chars

That and I remember I saw somehwere saying about breeding chocobo require you have a housing. So yeah. But I'd assume its not for FC, but your own house though.

How can endgame players build a house anyway? we're getting 2k repair bill every 2 hours and no income.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

How can endgame players build a house anyway? we're getting 2k repair bill every 2 hours and no income.

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GW: How much will it cost?
Yoshida; I can’t say it yet.

GW: What!? It’s still a secret?
Yoshida: It’s a secret (laugh). Right now we’re short on gil and planning to increase, so if I say it now it will cause major confusion, so up until the release I am not going to give out the price.

GW: I kind of think it would be good if you give some type of idea of the price so the those members in Free Company has something to aim for, but honestly, right now we can’t make any money in the game.
Yoshida: Yes, and I apologize for that, we’ll make it where you can start saving up. If I announce the price when we’re taking out too much, it’s going to cause a problem even before the price being high or low. So please wait for this information till right before the release.

Why no income?you can sell items you know.then you have all the income you need and more

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

Hello,

I have seen the videos during live letter about housing that some FC can buy but I am still unsure what the purpose is... Is it only for the FC to have a place to gather?

If yes, is it worth putting loads of gils in it when you could define any place as your HQ?

I hope we can get more information soon because I still have no clue if housing will change anything.

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housing will change EVERYTHING! buy a house, and you can instantly clear any dungeon with the push of a button! you can oneshot everybody in PvP! you can... have the game make toast for you!oh wait, it can't do those things. What are you expecting housing to change, exactly? Maybe you should tell us what you would want from it. Company housing is more or less a gathering place for your guild. We have heard a few things about it, like you can sell things from it, access your chest there, hang out, its you/your company's personal space. We'll apparently be able to build other things in the future, not just houses.

It bugs me when people seem to expect that every new feature must advance their killing ability in endgame or something. Not saying that's you (I don't think it is) but I see a lot of this sort of "how does it help me win?" stuff. Can't we have some 'for fun" features too?

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Originally Posted by SamsaraLotus

Why no income?you can sell items you know.then you have all the income you need and more

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*bam* Hadnut

The Gilincome is going to 0, what you mean is the Giltrading for Items at the Market.
But thx to the taxes the Money on the Server´s decrease slowly but steady.
We cannot make much money out of nothing like sell to an NPC or daily quest.

I for one am excited for housing. :)

Imagine if they put a PC inside your house then you can play games in your house while you playing FFXIV

Only FC housing will be available after 2.1 patch is that correct?

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

It bugs me when people seem to expect that every new feature must advance their killing ability in endgame or something. Not saying that's you (I don't think it is) but I see a lot of this sort of "how does it help me win?" stuff. Can't we have some 'for fun" features too?

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I don't
I just want to know if it has a purpose, that's it ^^
I am all for only "fun" features, now just need to know what those are
They just said at the time it was super expensive to buy and did not go in detail about what you can actually do inside
So I was just wondering

Atm I'm still confused on how house would work too.
Is it FC buy the whole land, and later on the members could purchase the plots on the land and build stuffs there?

I also remember hearing there's some buildings (Something like towers) that can give buffs,

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Originally Posted by Neoiceman

*bam* Hadnut

The Gilincome is going to 0, what you mean is the Giltrading for Items at the Market.
But thx to the taxes the Money on the Server´s decrease slowly but steady.
We cannot make much money out of nothing like sell to an NPC or daily quest.

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Actually, if you wanted, you could get an incredible amount of gil. There's an ARM leve in Limsa which gives 1000 gil per turn-in, triple for HQ, and can be turned in 3 times per allowance. That's 54,000 gil into the economy per person per day. If you wanted ones which require much less individual effort, there are several LTW leves which turn in 3 times and often return the skins used to craft the target item. Those are only around 21,600 gil per person per day, but it's fairly easy to do. The only thing keeping people from abusing the hell out of leves like that is the insane abundance of gil everywhere else. The projected deflation has not occurred. Prices which should be falling due to oversupply and competition are bolstered by the legions of people hanging out with 2 million gil and nothing to do with it. ilvl70 armor sets cost 2-3 million gil per set to make based on Coke/Fat/Peacock prices. I'd imagine that practice is also pushed swiftly along by the gil sellers, who have quite an operation going as the near sole suppliers of crystals at this point. MB on Coeurl was down to the last 580 or so wind crystals, and 500 of them were from a gil seller (Andyu -- retainer who sells nothing but shards and crystals in stacks of 500 and 1000 and has a constant supply... doesn't even pretend to be legit).

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Originally Posted by IMStarbuck

Imagine if they put a PC inside your house then you can play games in your house while you playing FFXIV

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not a bad idea. Yakuza 5 has a similar feature that you can play retro Sega games in the game center. maybe we can play FF1-6 in our house.

Imagine if you could play Final Fantasy 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 in your house that would be awesome.

More importantly can we have a make-out sofa or woohoo bed like in the sims?
and who's going to make my sandwich?
also, I do not clean

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Originally Posted by IMStarbuck

Imagine if they put a PC inside your house then you can play games in your house while you playing FFXIV

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Hey, I heard you like playing a tank, so we put a PC in your game and now you can play world of tanks while playing a tank in FFXIV.

At 2.1 housing is only to have a place for your FC. With every update later new housing updates are coming. Like private housing, gardening, basement crafting (build a airship in the FC house basement with the other crafters), chocobo breeding in your yard and much more

TGS live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZnCn2kvBwI&feature=player_detailpage#t=2402
Reinheart's translation: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1322772

f; Moving onto next content, Housing
y; We’re not going to have ‘that’ person come from Columbia? (Referring to Mr. Housing - Wada)
f; That’s enough for today
y; Ok housing,
f; Please explain the details
y; We have been talking about housing for a while, let’s go over
y; Housing, I believe lots of people are forming Free Companies but you’ll be able to have a Headquarters for your Free Company, there are three regions to choose from, Ul’dah, Limsa Lominsa, and Gridania.
y; You buy the land and build the house on top of it.
y; There are three sizes available, small, medium, and large
y; And as for parts we have about 380 types available at start
f; That’s a lot
y; I believe it will be where crafters show your skills
y; For battle classes you’ll be busy gathering materials for them, I believe there will be situations like that.
f; Okay
y; Lets go over the image while we..
y; Oh wait that’s wrong
f; We have a video
y; We have a video, until now we only showed Limsa Lominsa but we have others inside this time so please check it out. Alright let’s go to the video.
(Housing video playing)
f; There was a lot of things that made me curious
y; I believe in the video it was showing lots of exterior, interior parts
y; What you see in the art right now is the Limsa Lominsa, and the next slide
y; This was our first time showing but this one is Ul’dah’s artwork
y; As you have seen, we have it working on the demo and it turned out something like this.
f; It was in the video but the exteriors was changing a lot, that’s what you mean about different parts?
y; Yes, S, M, and L size each has 5 base patterns. There are different walls, windows, doors, roof, roof material, chimney, put on weather vane or not, put up a fence or not, what kind of fence, and for all of them you can change the color, I think I’m missing something
f; So that’s for exterior, next we saw the interior
y; Yes the interior, you can put a lot inside
y; There are FF like furnitures to standard furnitures, everything has been designed to match Eorzea. The art team has designed every piece so please look forward to it.
y; Fighting isn’t the only thing to do in Final Fantasy XIV, this is one of the strong living (everyday life) content, so please look forward to it.
f; No matter how many times I see it, the molbol chandelier is amazing
y; That, art team calls it the molbol set
f; There was even a bookshelf
y; I placed that in there, in fact I tried one room with just Molbol items but it felt like it really smells
y; felt like the room was going to turn yellow
y; looked like it was going to turn into Aurum Vale
y; You’re going to live there right?
f; Yes, I want a small house full of all of that
y; Really? I see
y; Well you can play like that
f; In the end of the video you saw demo of the Ul’dah’s housing area.
y; The art is Gridania, on the video demo it was Ul’dah’s housing area.
y; I saw in the niconico comment earlier but people are saying “it’s better than what they expected”
y; I think lots of people were leaning towards Limsa for housing area, but that’s not the case
y; we are really working hard into this
f; Can you choose where you want to live freely?
y; Yes players can decide on that themselves
y; It doesn’t relate to Grand Company so you can buy land where you like and build the house.
f; I see, thank you
f; Ok lets get to the questions while looking at the artworks
y; ok
f; I’m sure you can guess what we’re going to ask you
y; I’m not going to say the price, I am not going to say the price
f; okay here’s the questions, how much does the land and housing cost start from?
f; Please let us know the price for all S, M, and L.
y; I see, alright, then let’s start with S size, undecided
f; I see
y; Next M size, undecided
f; I see
y; Next L size, undecided
y; I’m sorry, right now I believe a lot of people are having problem with gil right now.
y; First let us fix it so players can obtain some more gil first, if I say the name right now people are going to look into their wallets and say “I only got this much right now and the price is that much!?”
y; So I want to look at the players data and decide on the price, so I apologize in advance but we’re going to wait this one till the last minute, please wait for it.
y; We’re making sure it’s going to be well balanced so you don’t get shocked when hearing the price, so please just trust us and wait.
f; So for price of housing will be adjusted till right before 2.1
y; Every individual medias always ask me this first, “did you decide on the housing price?”
f; Please wait for it
y; Yes please wait for it
f; Ok moving on, you mentioned you’re going to implement from Free Companies headquarters first, when are you planning for personal housing?
y; After receiving players feedbacks and checking servers opening status, we want to open this up as soon as possible.
y; Free Companies one is shared so, it’s hard to have your own space with your own taste.
y; Say when I opened up my Free Companies door and seeing everything Molbol
f; Welcome back Yoshida-san
y; I’ll be like who’s housing is this!? Can I move to another house?
y; Don’t want that to happen, so I want to look into this early.
f; okay related question, what kind of things can you do in your own personal housing?
f; for example is it only where you can craft furnitures and place them inside, or can you have a garden to grow stuff, or release minions inside?
y; Even if it’s personal or Free Companies headquarters, with this housing content alone, we’ll be having updates
y; Like you just mentioned, we’ll have a farm where you can grow Gysahl Greens, also you can build Chocobo’s breeding house and grow a Chocobo from egg
y; We want players to play for long so we have plans for these
y; Also I get asked this one a lot but we are planning something for crafters called Basement Workshop, you can make your free companies workshop in the basement and build a ships and airships with several crafters working together.
y; We’ll be expanding on the housing in order so please look forward to that as well.
f; Thank you, okay moving onto next question.
f; For the furnitures you can place inside the house, can anyone in the free company place them?
y; That all depends on the Free Companies leader and the permissions he gives to the members, if he/she only gives the permission to three people, then only those three can do it, however if he/she allows everyone to be able to move they can do that as well.
f; I see, so it’s up to how the leader sets it up.
y; Yes. Right now we’re showing lots of FF related stuff.
y; We have objects such as this one, you’ll be able to make these and place them.
f; Thank you, lets do one more question
f; For Free Company housing, do you have plans for payment other than Gil?
y; We’ll be going with Gil for a while. From there on we’ll be looking at how the economy is first,
y; at start we’ll be going with Gil, I can’t say if we are going to do it or not yet.
y; We’ll decide on that after looking at the situation.
y; I also received questions such as can we set up a loan?
y; It’s possible for people short paying, skipping payment, so we’ll need to look into this carefully.
f; I see, thank you
f; Ok next question,
f; Can we use the market, retainers, or NPC shops inside your housing, or in that housing area?
y; As for the NPC shops you can hire them and have them stand inside the headquarters
y; For housing specific retainer, you’ll be able to place a retainer specific stand, so you can have your Free Companies retainer there and sell items.
y; So please think of the housing area itself becoming a large market area.
f; I see, thank you
f; okay, I think it’s okay to go with one more question.
f; You mentioned you can make the furnitures with crafter, can all crafting classes participate?
y; I think for Culinarians, they’re going to end up making food for the tables.
f; I see
y; It’s not like we’re going to have a house built from bread
y; However, I believe that’s part of role playing, so you can have everyone from the Free Company
y; sit in a round table and eat a meal together. You can have use events like that so it will involve all the crafters and gathers who gathers the materials, and on top of that where battle class bring back home rare item drops.
y; I believe it will become a fun content for all.
f; That’s it for the questions, however we still got few more slides so can you go through them?
y; It’s really detailed, this one is a doll, I’m sure you can guess that weavers are going to make this one.
f; ok next,
y; These are standard furnitures, book shelves but we want everyone to notice the details put into it, our art team is working hard and being very detailed.
f; It’s detailed
y; yes
f; Do we have more?
y; The lighting changes with the light so those are carefully detailed, even for the monster type furniture
y; Bird drinking water, the art shows where the gears are at to make it bend.
f; Looks like it can cover a lot of people
y; Yes, you can have a chair for single person or chair where people can sit together
f; We had some more
y; This is the L shaped sofa
y; This is good
f; Makes you want a big house
y; Right now we don’t have a sleep motion, so the other day the motion team asked me if you wanted to do this soon?
y; It makes it possible to come up with some dangerous images, so I’m telling them it has to be safe and not cross that line.
y; Listen up everyone, don’t do anything bad.
f; I think for today, this shocked everyone the most.
f; okay moving onto next
y; These are standard furnitures, but we’re really working into the details, such as the plates.
y; I think there are lots of MMOs out there with housing but we’re really working in small details.
f; This one is another great one
(Looking at Behemoth wall mount)
y; This one huh, it’s like “Go take it down to get the materials”
f; It’s going to be hard for the materials.
y; This one is nice
f; It lights up, it lights up.
y; It lights up!? Really? I wasn’t told that.
f; It’s out
y; Here it is
f; Thank you, dunno why I’m thanking but...
y; This one is ugly
f; It was in the video earlier but it’s already made
y; Yes it’s made
y; It will glow green lighting up everyone
f; I know everyone wants this
y; no no no
f; We would like show you all more later on, but for today that is it.