Ifrit's Harpoon.

I have run Ifrit Hard Mode more than 120 times now (trust me, i kept track) and no matter how many times i do it, i still do not get the drop for Lancer/Dragoon.

I have THREE other ifrit weapons that i cannot use (smn/blm book -Ifrits codex - ifrits blade)

Why so difficult? It's pretty hard to run dungeons and other things that are a huge dps check if i am not geared up properly, seriously 120+ times? the number of unsuccessful runs just keeps rising.

MOD, in game GM, SOMEONE Please help me figure this out. this is bothering me more than it should, i'm not one to quit playing an MMO because i dont get a drop, but with the way this is setup, It's pretty freaking ridiculous that i haven't seen my Harpoon drop.

Seriously SE i'll trade you the other THREE Ifrits weapons i have for my harpoon, i wont even miss them.

I think i'm speaking for all of those other people who haven't received their drops when i say:

I have put in the time and effort, i deserve my reward. :(

It's just bad luck. That's how MMOs work. Either tough it out or do something else. At least it's not like WoW where you don't see the drop and then have to wait another week before you can even attempt it again.

Unfortunately I'm in the same position as you, though I've probably done only half of your runs (only counting successful ones). It dropped the very first run I did but I rolled a 7 and the other DRG rolled a 77. Haven't seen it drop since. I have the BRD, SMN, and WHM weapons, all of which are level 1 for me and I'm not planning on leveling any of them any time soon. Best thing to do though, if you do keep on trying to get it, is to queue and level another class while waiting.

should make a post some time to try to get 1000 runs in and find out what all loot dropped.

nothing so scientific but in my 30-40 kills ive almost fully seen bows, blk mage weapons and healer weapons. 2 swords, 2 axes, 1 harpoon, 1 summoner weapon, 0 monk weapons.

my friend with 50ish kills has seen very similar

just farm garuda or titan they drop better weapons anyways... or better yet just build your relic.

It is completely luck. I got my harpoon on my second kill. My bard friend has done Ifrit dozens of times with no bow. RNG is a fickle mistress.

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Originally Posted by Eckoh

just farm garuda or titan they drop better weapons anyways... or better yet just build your relic.

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chances are if someone is farming ifrit 120 times they are not in a position to get a titan kill for the relic weapon

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Originally Posted by xyaie

chances are if someone is farming ifrit 120 times they are not in a position to get a titan kill for the relic weapon

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This is my problem, i am not geared for Garuda, much less Titan. The time i spent wasted on Ifrit i could have been gearing Darklight (i have a few pieces but not all)

I really think i'm just going to move on and get a similar weapon from one of the Grand Companies. I'm not going to worry about Ifrit anymore. my FC is leaving me behind because i can't get the drop, and everyone else already has Garuda weapons.

garuda doesnt require much (titan does). GC weapon with a few pieces from AK is enough, ive killed her when i was the only person above 100 dps. Its more about doing things correctly than raw numbers.

Yeah the GC weapon is pretty close to Ifrit's in terms of quality, and more than enough to get you through Grauda.

You're at the point of no return now.

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Originally Posted by Narcariel

It is completely luck. I got my harpoon on my second kill. My bard friend has done Ifrit dozens of times with no bow. RNG is a fickle mistress.

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Yeah, I got my weapons in my first run Ifrit and second time in Garuda.

IMO the Ifrit weapon isn't really even worth farming for. Use the GC weapon. Kill him once, farm CM, AK, Garuda. The Garuda weapon is better anyway.

Yea, I noticed that Garuda's weapon is even better than Relic +1.

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Originally Posted by Zareth

Yea, I noticed that Garuda's weapon is even better than Relic +1.

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Not quite. Physical damage is the most important attribute for a weapon and Gae Bolg +1 has 46 whereas Garuda's Beak has 41. And Gae Bolg +1 has 31 STR and 26 crit rate vs Garuda's 22 STR and 29 skill speed. Gae Bolg +1 is a much better weapon. Hell, even regular relic is better.

took me 25 attempts, codex and cudgel keep droppin...

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Originally Posted by GrowlingAlmond

I have run Ifrit Hard Mode more than 120 times now (trust me, i kept track) and no matter how many times i do it, i still do not get the drop for Lancer/Dragoon.

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I've run Ifrit 3 times. The first time, some WHM cane dropped that no one cares about (sorry healers).

Second time, the Harpoon dropped, and a baddie DRG who died 4 times picked it up.

Third time, the Harpoon dropped again and I was the only DRG.


* Just posting because stabbing your pain point with a sharp stick may help numb the pain of getting shafted by the RNG.

Edit: Of course now I'll never see any other spear drop due to negative karma accrual.

I've seen Ifrit harpoon 7 times in a row.
Never saw Garuda's though.

RNG's a bitch.

All I was seeing at Ifrit was books and 1 bow. And then suddenly 2 lances in a row. Never saw any other weapon. Even Garuda and Titan..books. Funny.

I play monk and most of the time I'm the only monk in the group but it still took me about 50 runs + getting the index, the bow, the harpoon and the sword before I got my claw. -_- RNG is RNG.

My record of RNG giving the piss is 8 MNK weapons in a row.. I wonder how big those odds are!

We're both in this case. I've seen Garuda's Talon way too many times.

Yeah the RNG is killer in this game...

For one i wish the game didn't drop things for a class that is NOT in the party

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Originally Posted by GiseleValkyrie

Yeah the RNG is killer in this game...

For one i wish the game didn't drop things for a class that is NOT in the party

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thats that childish gimme everything now because i want it rather then earning mentality.

Hell make some gil and pay a top guild to run you though the stuff... i sell runs for titan all day most days i have made millions doing it. Instead of crying you didn't get a drop pay to have the relic made get better gear then sell runs for other people not capable of EARNING their gear.

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Originally Posted by Eckoh

thats that childish gimme everything now because i want it rather then earning mentality.

Hell make some gil and pay a top guild to run you though the stuff... i sell runs for titan all day most days i have made millions doing it. Instead of crying you didn't get a drop pay to have the relic made get better gear then sell runs for other people not capable of EARNING their gear.

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Someone wanting to see an outcome for putting the effort in and attempting to earn their items is childish?

Go back to League of Legends.

Honestly I would say its more childish to assume everyone has the same opportunity you do. For someome with very limited playtime farming 450k gil would take considerably longer than 120 runs of ifrit.

The rng drop chance does not deny the children everything now, some get it now, while many work for it and never get it. I would not work for a job where there is a chance ill get paid for my work, a chance I won't, a chance I might get it but it might be in money from another country.

I'm fine enough with the loot system, but to call someone childish because they disagree with your views is, in my oppinion, childish.

RNG is earning, guys.

When I +9'd my first weapon in TERA by using a green, I totally felt like I 'earned' it.

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Originally Posted by MalcolmReynolds

It's just bad luck. That's how MMOs work. Either tough it out or do something else. At least it's not like WoW where you don't see the drop and then have to wait another week before you can even attempt it again.

Unfortunately I'm in the same position as you, though I've probably done only half of your runs (only counting successful ones). It dropped the very first run I did but I rolled a 7 and the other DRG rolled a 77. Haven't seen it drop since. I have the BRD, SMN, and WHM weapons, all of which are level 1 for me and I'm not planning on leveling any of them any time soon. Best thing to do though, if you do keep on trying to get it, is to queue and level another class while waiting.

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No it's not luck. At all. Mage stuff like the book almost always drops and the bow,claws, and spear are nowhere to be seen. Drop rates are messed up

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Originally Posted by Farrell

No it's not luck. At all. Mage stuff like the book almost always drops and the bow,claws, and spear are nowhere to be seen. Drop rates are messed up

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I obtained my harpoon and beak in the same day, killing Ifrit only 6 times. Half a day later I saw Titan's lance drop (lost the roll to a dragoon who died right after the heart phase :( ) and obtained my relic 3 minutes later.

You're partially true about the books, but only because you're forgetting books are split between two classes. Of course they'll have a higher rate of dropping. Drops are still RNG based.

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Originally Posted by Raenryong

Someone wanting to see an outcome for putting the effort in and attempting to earn their items is childish?

Go back to League of Legends.

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This guy's been trolling every post I've seen him on so far. He's got an elitist aura and way of talking that just pisses people off. And he's kind of an asshole to boot.

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Originally Posted by Farrell

No it's not luck. At all. Mage stuff like the book almost always drops and the bow,claws, and spear are nowhere to be seen. Drop rates are messed up

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I assure you there's no conspiracy against any class. This is how RNG works.

Don't bother, the GC weapon is good enough

Wow that's kinda shitty.. I ran Ifrit HM with my Bard for the first time by accident.. I was trying to queue for CM. Got my bow on first kill.

Random at it's best, got my Ifrit's Harpoon after 15-20 runs, almost lost it to another Dragoon that had relic weapon (beats me why he want to roll for an inferior weapon to his relic but meh), did a few runs after that and Ifrit's Harpoon drop 3 times in a row.

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Originally Posted by MalcolmReynolds

This guy's been trolling every post I've seen him on so far. He's got an elitist aura and way of talking that just pisses people off. And he's kind of an asshole to boot.



I assure you there's no conspiracy against any class. This is how RNG works.

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Not saying conspiracy, but im at the point to where I see 15-20 books a day and not one bow for ifrit or garuda. people love saying rng is rng but at this point im willing to bet there is something wrong. Too many people want to take bad design and no one wants to ask why one thing drops over 50 times while another doesn't

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Originally Posted by Farrell

Not saying conspiracy, but im at the point to where I see 15-20 books a day and not one bow for ifrit or garuda. people love saying rng is rng but at this point im willing to bet there is something wrong. Too many people want to take bad design and no one wants to ask why one thing drops over 50 times while another doesn't

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I understand what you're saying but if that was the issue everyone would be experiencing it. However, numerous people have seen the bow or the spear drop several times in a row. I can understand your frustration at poorly designed aspects of the game, but I highly doubt this is one of those things.

Got mine tonight on the 4th attempt.

So update.

After trying a few more times, i was just about to give up.

It's 1AM in the morning, and a few people in my FC ask me to run it one more time to help them get a few last tomes.

I agree and we take him down. Not even being in there for the weapon. Pop. it fucking drops and i'm the only DRG in the party.

So after 140+ attempts, i get the drop the one time i'm in there to help someone, not for the drop. (Story of my life..)

So to anyone out there still having issues: Keep trying, Ifrit is a complete ass when it comes to drops, but it'll happen.

I'm sure i broke a record on attempts though.

Good Luck all!

140 attempts for a weapon you will use to kill Titan and maybe farm some tomes, then never use again because you will have your relic. Congrats on your moment of happiness, no doubt.

Farrell, it stopped being about the weapon long ago...but we all know that.

Im running into people on my server I know only from running ifrit for weeks in 1.0 to get a full set. You are doing it right.

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Farrell, it stopped being about the weapon long ago...but we all know that.

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Haha, exactly this. It's a marginal upgrade from the GC weapon but it's about the principle now, damn it!

Grats on the drop, Almond!

After liking at posts about ifrit spear, sword abd harpoon, I decide to do some Ifrit HM for my relic and as a break in between CM runs. I then proceed to get Spear, Harpoon, Sword and then bow. Nary a scholar book though lol.