BLM or DRG?

Hey guys,

Im in a dilemma, I don't know which DD I want to be. I got WAR to 50 and doing Titan fight 100 times, I dont like the feel of WAR at end game now. I want to dps, but I dont know which way to go. Are BLM more heavy on dps? I liek the fact tehy are ranged, but I also like how DRG looks and their jumps look sick. If they are equally geared do they do pretty equal dps?

If you want ranged I'd go for Bard, they have a lot more group utility with silence and songs and they do more dps than BLM or DRG. DRG edges out BLM a bit if DRG can stay in combat longer which usually isn't the case.

Not exactly sure where Ricauer gets the idea that DRG "edges out" BLM in DPS. DRG is currently the lowest DPS class in the game, which is an undisputed fact. I'd definitely go BLM over DRG, but agree that Bard is probably your best bet. They're the most popular DPS pickup in end-game raiding. That being said, most coil groups are looking for at least 2-3 bards and 1 BLM. None are looking for DRGs.

Pick the play style you enjoy best because right now there is gear missing between primal HMs and Coil because of the lack of a certain dungeon that is supposed to be in the game but isn't yet.

Pick the class that has the more appealing playstyle and aesthetic to you. People who pick based on highest damage output are just FOTM rollers, and if/when that class gets nerfed they're out of luck stuck with something that they might not really prefer and that isn't top dog anymore.

Opinions vary more widely here than most other MMO communities I've seen. Best thing to do is just try out different classes and see what clicks. For example, I loved PGL at first and wasn't crazy about LNC. Now at 30+ on both, LNC just feels better to me.

Ok thanks for the advise guys

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Originally Posted by gabezone

Not exactly sure where Ricauer gets the idea that DRG "edges out" BLM in DPS. DRG is currently the lowest DPS class in the game, which is an undisputed fact. I'd definitely go BLM over DRG, but agree that Bard is probably your best bet. They're the most popular DPS pickup in end-game raiding. That being said, most coil groups are looking for at least 2-3 bards and 1 BLM. None are looking for DRGs.

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I dont know what DRG youve been playing with but it is def not the weakest class. If you have a guy that knows what theyre doing, has good rotation using buffs/debuffs, then DRG can be near the top. We had a blm, mnk, and 2 drg and push phased garuda every time. There is no weakest class, just weak players.

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Originally Posted by gabezone

Not exactly sure where Ricauer gets the idea that DRG "edges out" BLM in DPS. DRG is currently the lowest DPS class in the game, which is an undisputed fact. I'd definitely go BLM over DRG, but agree that Bard is probably your best bet. They're the most popular DPS pickup in end-game raiding. That being said, most coil groups are looking for at least 2-3 bards and 1 BLM. None are looking for DRGs.

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drg is not the lowest dps class in the game by far lol monk is drg is one of the highest single target dps in the game if played right

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Originally Posted by gabezone

Not exactly sure where Ricauer gets the idea that DRG "edges out" BLM in DPS. DRG is currently the lowest DPS class in the game, which is an undisputed fact. I'd definitely go BLM over DRG, but agree that Bard is probably your best bet. They're the most popular DPS pickup in end-game raiding. That being said, most coil groups are looking for at least 2-3 bards and 1 BLM. None are looking for DRGs.

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2-3 bards due to song stacking and stupid DPS (which will get nerfed eventually, that's a fact).

That being said, play what you want. Make sure you enjoy your class. That's more important than picking what's popular or currently in demand.

Theres fifty thousand DRG. I can't walk anywhere in Uldah without tripping over a 50 DRG. BLM is a bit rare.

Yes, I got a 50 DRG too.

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Originally Posted by Leonas

Theres fifty thousand DRG. I can't walk anywhere in Uldah without tripping over a 50 DRG. BLM is a bit rare.

Yes, I got a 50 DRG too.

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Must just be your server. I don't see that many DRG walking around, aside from myself. And in terms of DPS, I just want to throw this out.

Last Night, i insta-queued as a DRG into Aurum Vale. We made it to the Morbol boss at the end, not knowing how to down it exactly. The part was a PLD, WHM, DRG, and MNK. First 3 times, we wiped because the seedlings hatched and we couldn't down them fast enough. I said screw it... and once he planted them started spamming my AoE (forget the name off hand) and that literally won the fight for us. So DRG is a fairly Strategic DPS. they are great at BURST damage in the same way a WHM is great for burst heals. In short, DRG is more consistent in DPS from start to end given a decent tank to manage enemy direction.

I leveled Dragoon originally. I queue most dungeons and such duo with a WHM. The reason I switched to BLM was that when the other 2-6 people in our DF groups turned out to be awful, DRG did not have the tools to pick up the slack. If tanks were aggro-failing, I couldn't CC (and I've since learned that BLM makes perhaps a better temp-tank than DRG). If we got a lamentable SMN DPS, I struggled to get us to DPS checks -- especially when there was a lot of movement, multiple mobs, or AOE, such as on Demon Wall.

As my partner put it, "it seems like all you can do is herpaderpderp hit things 'til you die". I felt the same way. I think if you're in a good guild and/or have a consistent group, Dragoon will put out excellent DPS and be a lot of fun. For what we've been doing I needed something with a bit more flexibility. In that respect, BLM hasn't disappointed.

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Originally Posted by khovel

Must just be your server. I don't see that many DRG walking around, aside from myself. And in terms of DPS, I just want to throw this out.
... ( Snipped for 1K limit. ) ...So DRG is a fairly Strategic DPS. they are great at BURST damage in the same way a WHM is great for burst heals. In short, DRG is more consistent in DPS from start to end given a decent tank to manage enemy direction.

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Yes, the pole dancing aoe skill is nice, more so if you BfB and drop dragonfire prior for a small burst on aoe damage. Honestly though, those seedlings aren't that hard to kill. Was the mnk in the party usingh is own AoE skills? MNK gets 3, and only 1 of them on a long CD. If he was already AoEing, then you're aoe just was enough to kill the adds coupled with his. Though it might all be a moot point since this is drg against blm and in that fight, if it was a blm, blm AoE probably woulda nuked it even faster.

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Originally Posted by gabezone

Not exactly sure where Ricauer gets the idea that DRG "edges out" BLM in DPS. DRG is currently the lowest DPS class in the game, which is an undisputed fact. I'd definitely go BLM over DRG, but agree that Bard is probably your best bet. They're the most popular DPS pickup in end-game raiding. That being said, most coil groups are looking for at least 2-3 bards and 1 BLM. None are looking for DRGs.

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There is absolutely no evidence to support that statement. Your pathetic, unreliable third party parsers don't work properly with SE's combat logs. So your "undisputed fact" is now currently disputed. There's a fun fact for you. You're also forgetting positional, downtime to AoE abilities, etc.. where a BLM spikes over Melee. Also, there are Coil groups looking for Dragoon's because they are a viable class, as is every other one, and they bring quite the damage buff to a raid, so it's almost stupid not to have one.

FYI: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ver-First!-TFS

That's Coil with a Dragoon, and oh my god they serve a purpose, and didn't fail with such proven low Dragoon DPS.

Owned. /thread

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Originally Posted by MalcolmReynolds

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which will get nerfed eventually, that's a fact.
important than picking what's popular or currently in demand.

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Remind me to visit you, the next time i'll be looking for definite facts and not pure speculations.
rofl...

I believe it is probable that we will see a limited amount of rebalancing of the classes.
Traditionally for balance there is a trade off for dps between damage dealt and squishiness/support ability. Basically you trade a degree of damage dealing ability for the ability to either take more hits or use party support abilities like bard songs.
If and when we do see this rebalancing then I expect BLM to be top dps in terms of raw damage. It's the squishiest so should be putting out the biggest numbers. Also Yoshi is a BLM, can't see him allowing it to be gimped in any way for long.

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Originally Posted by khovel

Must just be your server. I don't see that many DRG walking around, aside from myself. And in terms of DPS, I just want to throw this out.

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You are joking me right? I'm on Diabolos and you can't go a single corner with out bumping into a DRG! I mean have you even been to Rev. Toll? Zoom your camera out and you will notice the whole place is more DRG than any other class lol! I can BARELY get into a party (CM, Primals) with out at least 2 DRGs. First LS i got into on diabolos they had 15 DRG, 2 MNKS, 4 WHM, 3 BLM, 1 PLD, 3 WARs, 7 SMN. It was funny when they would fight over gear though. But Diabolos drove me AWAY from being a DRG at all

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Originally Posted by KaisaaVonFaust

You are joking me right? I'm on Diabolos and you can't go a single corner with out bumping into a DRG! I mean have you even been to Rev. Toll? Zoom your camera out and you will notice the whole place is more DRG than any other class lol! I can BARELY get into a party (CM, Primals) with out at least 2 DRGs. First LS i got into on diabolos they had 15 DRG, 2 MNKS, 4 WHM, 3 BLM, 1 PLD, 3 WARs, 7 SMN. It was funny when they would fight over gear though. But Diabolos drove me AWAY from being a DRG at all

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We're cool on Phoenix :')

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Originally Posted by Sindri_Myr

Remind me to visit you, the next time i'll be looking for definite facts and not pure speculations.
rofl...

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You really think SE is going to give you the best of all worlds by keeping BRD near top DPS while providing so much utility to the group and being out of harm's way for nearly every encounter? Something's going to give and the easiest fix would be dropping their DPS. Not sure if you were in the beta but this damage buff is relatively new to you guys due to complaints about them not being very powerful. IMO they over corrected it and a fix in the other direction is coming. This should be evident if you've ever played an MMO before.

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Originally Posted by Syfin

Hey guys,

Im in a dilemma, I don't know which DD I want to be. I got WAR to 50 and doing Titan fight 100 times, I dont like the feel of WAR at end game now. I want to dps, but I dont know which way to go. Are BLM more heavy on dps? I liek the fact tehy are ranged, but I also like how DRG looks and their jumps look sick. If they are equally geared do they do pretty equal dps?

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Their jumps get us killed...

DRG's are NOT the lowest DPS class in the game currently. I don't know where you got your numbers for that, but until you post a parse log showing DRG to be the lowest, im going to call BS.