Battleping for EU players

So anyone tried to use it? I know that in Aion it makes things so much better. I don't think there might be a better option for now to decrease the latency..

aside opening the doors to rmt ? sure.

Why pay for something that will ping a IP-adress when you can do it yourself.

In the run window type in cmd and start the cmd.exe. It opens the command window. In the command line you type: ping 199.91.189.74 -t
The ping adress I put in there is the pingserver in montreal for NA/EU servers.

Voila continues ping for free, just minimize and it will run until you close the command window.

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Originally Posted by Gawan

Why pay for something that will ping a IP-adress when you can do it yourself.

In the run window type in cmd and start the cmd.exe. It opens the command window. In the command line you type: ping 199.91.189.74 -t
The ping adress I put in there is the pingserver in montreal for NA/EU servers.

Voila continues ping for free, just minimize and it will run until you close the command window.

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Does this lower ping or just display it?

Gawan doesn't understand the purpose of these services.

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Originally Posted by Gawan

Why pay for something that will ping a IP-adress when you can do it yourself.

In the run window type in cmd and start the cmd.exe. It opens the command window. In the command line you type: ping 199.91.189.74 -t
The ping adress I put in there is the pingserver in montreal for NA/EU servers.

Voila continues ping for free, just minimize and it will run until you close the command window.

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Do you know what is Battleping...?

or you can just open the game and hold windows button + r and type in resmon to open the resource monitor then go network and look for ffxiv.exe and you can see your ping in real time

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Originally Posted by Syfin

Does this lower ping or just display it?

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It does show your ping. If it lowers your ping, that I dont know. But if all the battleping program is doing is pinging a certain adress in a certain location. Then this does the same, but for free.

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Originally Posted by Syfin

Does this lower ping or just display it?

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rly? Ofc is shows only your latency to the server. How in the world should that affect your routing? Maybe you should just use google and see for yourself how "latency" and "routing" works in general on the internet for client - server communications.

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Originally Posted by nimrod

rly? Ofc is shows only your latency to the server. How in the world should that affect your routing? Maybe you should just use google and see for yourself how "latency" and "routing" works in general on the internet for client - server communications.

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That was my point...

So I google it and...

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over 40 games including Aion and XXIV Final Fantasy (A Realm Reborn)

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XXIV Final Fantasy

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XXIV

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There is a trial so you can check it out .-. I know this was VERY helpfull in Aion.

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Originally Posted by Cairn

Do you know what is Battleping...?

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It is a program that creates a tunnel so you can bypass certain problems if your ISP throttles games or dont allow communication on certain ports and it may even create a better route to the game servers.

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Originally Posted by Gawan

It is a program that creates a tunnel so you can bypass certain problems if your ISP throttles games or dont allow communication on certain ports and it may even create a better route to the game servers.

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Exactly, it creates a VPN tunnel. Pinging a server in CMD is not the same as creating a VPN to tunnel data more efficiently than your ISP.

Pro tip - Open CMD and type tracert -d 199.91.189.74

This will tell you how many hops and how long it takes you to get to the NE/EU servers. You can then download the trial for Battleping and do the same to see if it is actually an improvement or not.

I have some friends using this that have reported a 30%+ improvement in their ping. I'm only at 90-100 from the UK to the NA/EU server base so I haven't tried it myself yet. But hey, if it can knock me down to 70 why not?

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Originally Posted by Sweeet

Exactly, it creates a VPN tunnel. Pinging a server in CMD is not the same as creating a VPN to tunnel data more efficiently than your ISP.

Pro tip - Open CMD and type tracert -d 199.91.189.74

This will tell you how many hops and how long it takes you to get to the NE/EU servers. You can then download the trial for Battleping and do the same to see if it is actually an improvement or not.

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Dont use cmd for that, got better programs for doing traceroutes. Me want shiny, colourful graphs instead of a black screen with white numbers on it.

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Originally Posted by Gawan

Dont use cmd for that, got better programs for doing traceroutes.

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Indeed but that comment wasn't just aimed at you and the average user will have enough trouble using CMD let alone anything else.

Sorry for bumping but, are BPing/WTFast officially allowed for FFXIV?

of course not, they're 3° party tools.

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Originally Posted by Sweeet

Exactly, it creates a VPN tunnel. Pinging a server in CMD is not the same as creating a VPN to tunnel data more efficiently than your ISP.

Pro tip - Open CMD and type tracert -d 199.91.189.74

This will tell you how many hops and how long it takes you to get to the NE/EU servers. You can then download the trial for Battleping and do the same to see if it is actually an improvement or not.

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Yup no improvement here, 107ms with and 107 ms without.

107ms isn't bad from Europe, SE still need to fix their AoE circles to sync with cast bars :S

Also a ping to the servers doesn't really help if SE's servers have bad infrastructure and netcode.

I shouldv'e 70-100ping to EU, while i have 150-170 to FF XIV servers..

I'd be quite worried for my accounts security when using such third-party programs. It may help latency, I don't know first-hand , though I don't really see how technically (read everything and its opposite about Battleping on google, and their website doesn't really explain much in the way of methodology), but I'm not sure it's worth taking the risk.

A simple VPN may be a better solution if you're having ISP issues with online gaming, even though it usually lags as well compared to a barebone connection (assuming your ISP isn't blocking some ports/protocols on purpose, as some shamelessly do in France for instance).

Yeah I am not sure a third party program is very safe, I've been told by others a bit more knowledgeable that it's not.

At the same time, I'm in Australia and it seems I have a ping around 270-300ms and "over a maximum of 30 hops". I've been able to get through all the MSQ dungeons, but I've always had issues with avoiding attacks despite being quite quick on the mark. Whilst I never had this issue in Tera (strangely enough), I'm really concerned for doing any end-game dungeons and disappointing a lot of people (and myself).

If anyone has any safe way of decreasing my latency I'd really appreciate it.

I could not care less about battleping services as no matter how good is your latency this game will always feel clunky and unresponsive, at least as long as SE states that the following things are "working as intended":
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ct-out-of-sync
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...less-rewarding.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...es-the-casting.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-small-objects.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ilable-for-use.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-not-intuitive

What battleping does and any other services like it, is that it will route your data through there servers to provide a a more direct route with less hopping about for example your data (for what ever reason) may jump through 80 hops to get to your destination , with this it may cut it down to 40 to your destination, thus lowering your ping. However if you have a crap connection nothing will help you anyhow, and if you are living several thousand miles away your data still has to travel through main data lines anyhow you may or may not get drop in latency.

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Originally Posted by Jinko

Yup no improvement here, 107ms with and 107 ms without.

107ms isn't bad from Europe, SE still need to fix their AoE circles to sync with cast bars :S

Also a ping to the servers doesn't really help if SE's servers have bad infrastructure and netcode.

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This test wont work for battle ping as battleping will identify and only route your game data.

To properly test battleping you need to use the performance tab within task manager and look at the ping for the individual process.

Hope this helps:)

Services like this will never lower your actual ping.

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Originally Posted by Junpei

This test wont work for battle ping as battleping will identify and only route your game data.

To properly test battleping you need to use the performance tab within task manager and look at the ping for the individual process.

Hope this helps:)

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It does thanks, but when I look at for the ping in task manger all I see is send and receive :S

Edit:- Never mind, found it.

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Originally Posted by complexxL9

I could not care less about battleping services as no matter how good is your latency this game will always feel clunky and unresponsive, at least as long as SE states that the following things are "working as intended":
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ct-out-of-sync

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For dodging things, the rule is: if whatever it is finishes casting (as in, cast bar is done, animation of cast finish begins, whatever) while you are in the aoe, then you are going to be hit. It doesn't matter where you go afterward, you didn't dodge it and you got hit. The same exact rule applies to you against enemies.

For example: that titan video. The player did not move fast enough. Titan's cast bar at the top of the screen finished while he was still in the plume radius; whatever else happens after that is irrelevant. He was already dead. Keep in mind you can do the same thing against them too, by waiting for the cast bar to finish and then jumping into the plume. You won't take damage.

Lag is not an excuse. The game requires you to move that fast. That's just how it is. Welcome to hard mode.

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Originally Posted by Crevox

For dodging things, the rule is: if whatever it is finishes casting (as in, cast bar is done, animation of cast finish begins, whatever) while you are in the aoe, then you are going to be hit. It doesn't matter where you go afterward, you didn't dodge it and you got hit. The same exact rule applies to you against enemies.

For example: that titan video. The player did not move fast enough. Titan's cast bar at the top of the screen finished while he was still in the plume radius; whatever else happens after that is irrelevant. He was already dead. Keep in mind you can do the same thing against them too, by waiting for the cast bar to finish and then jumping into the plume. You won't take damage.

Lag is not an excuse. The game requires you to move that fast. That's just how it is. Welcome to hard mode.

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This is besides the point really.

What is the purpose of graphical markers if they don't line up or even sync with cast bars ?, their whole purpose is to notify the player to move out of this big ass circle.

I will be glad when this game gets addons I can at least plonk a massive cast bar bang smack in the middle of my screen without me having to squint at a damn cast bar in the Focus UI that is half obscured by text.

You guys can try and defend this BS all you like but fact is almost no other game out there suffers from these mismatches. (its been a problem since phase 3)

Is it really that hard for SE to have the floor markers appear half a second sooner ? and actually end when the cast bar does !

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Originally Posted by Crevox

For dodging things, the rule is: if whatever it is finishes casting (as in, cast bar is done, animation of cast finish begins, whatever) while you are in the aoe, then you are going to be hit. It doesn't matter where you go afterward, you didn't dodge it and you got hit. The same exact rule applies to you against enemies.

For example: that titan video. The player did not move fast enough. Titan's cast bar at the top of the screen finished while he was still in the plume radius; whatever else happens after that is irrelevant. He was already dead. Keep in mind you can do the same thing against them too, by waiting for the cast bar to finish and then jumping into the plume. You won't take damage.

Lag is not an excuse. The game requires you to move that fast. That's just how it is. Welcome to hard mode.

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so what you're saying is:
you see boss throwing a rock which lands 5 meters away from your character and you still get damage. Everything's ok here, you just need to understand that this game works this way and be aware that actually you need to be 5 meters away not when the rock lands, but when it is thrown in to the air.
that kind of design is flawed and lazy and yes on top of that it is certainly hard, but it can be hard without these flaws.

So no matter your ping, they should first fix obvious flaws.

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Originally Posted by Crevox

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Having the client the server the casting bar and the visual marker all out of sync is no hard mode , is just poor coding .

I've no issue at all dodging stuff at the current state , but that doesn't mean that is right as it is .

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Originally Posted by Crimsonforce

or you can just open the game and hold windows button + r and type in resmon to open the resource monitor then go network and look for ffxiv.exe and you can see your ping in real time

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You win all of Linus Torvaldis' love.

having ms spikes over 200 everynight from 8pm - 12am here in norway.. its rather ridiculous...