ENDGAME BORING

Wow non legacy.. forced to farm Amdapor keep x 20 per week.. This is awful

The runs take forever and it doesn't reward you beyond tomes. I mean if you had a chance at rare drops or something..Do they need suggestions?!.. But this is really bad. Why are there not at least 5-10 dgns.. I hate doing the same one! And a cap on Mythology tomes.. WOW.. they said they listen to community but this is the perfect of example of that being a LIE.

sorry I'm just really frustrated.. I want to love this game... but UGH

They community is not is base on legacy players. They are only a part of it. There are alot more players that haven't even bought the game or just started playing. The game is only out for how long? Come on..... And SE are busy solving a lot of typical BIG HIT mmo problems which is balancing, maintaining or just trying to keep up with the huge success.

And now you are asking for more content ? Really ? A few weeks after the game just released ?

64 Keep runs to full Darklight. Luckily, I've already accomplished that.

What I find funny is, with the speedrunning nerf, it doesn't affect the people who were originally speedrunning (my entire FC for the past 3 weeks for example), but the newer 50s who it will take them a lot longer to gear up.

The cap on Mythology (Valor as a lot of people refer to it as) makes sense as a gear progression block so that we don't become to powerful to the point of making Coil gear irrelevant.

EDIT: Endgame isn't boring. The Philosophy/Mythology grind is. Nearly done with Coil and have had a fair amount of fun tackling the raid content.

Yep it hurt all the players that are new and none of the ones that actually butt hurt the developers by doing speed runs. Good on you Square enix punish the innocent to make an example of the guilty.

We should use this in the real world and murder the victims while letting the criminals run free.

+1 to Square in charge of the justice systems.

There are more dungeons than keep you know

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Originally Posted by Melopahn

Yep it hurt all the players that are new and none of the ones that actually butt hurt the developers by doing speed runs. Good on you Square enix punish the innocent to make an example of the guilty.

We should use this in the real world and murder the victims while letting the criminals run free.

+1 to Square in charge of the justice systems.

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This is a little extreme don't you think? Square fixed something that was not working as intended, and made it work as intended. When changes are made to anything there will always be a group that gets the short end of the stick, but your comment makes it a lot more extreme than it really is.

Just because some used an exploit and that exploit is fixed doesn't mean that the ppl who can not use the exploit are being punished.

That being said... I don't see why they are hating on speed runs..

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Originally Posted by GomE

And now you are asking for more content ? Really ? A few weeks after the game just released ?

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Damn right players who want endgame content are complaining about there not being any endgame content.

lol when i heard that less than 100 people would be killing Bahamut, I assumed it was because it was going to be difficult due to being overtuned, you know, the Diablo III approach

not because they were going to swat all the players who actually wanted to complete it like flies

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Originally Posted by Senzura

There are more dungeons than keep that reward myth you know

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oh really

where?

Coil of Bahamuth

you only need to run it 8 times a week. 8 x 40 = 320

Than you can do other things.

Shhh don't tell them ... 2 runs per day have to be damn awful to do, that and the 3 hardmodes + bahamut + relic quest + gearin all the classes in DL until 2.1 come out

Well, you can't really do the 3 hardmodes + Bahamut + Relic Quest + gearing all the classes until you've completed your runs, at least for darklight gear. Which leaves very little to do in the meantime. So would you suggest, in any capacity, that having players do nothing in the game aside from 2 arbitrary runs a day in a patently unentertaining exercise for several weeks of time that we're supposed to be paying for is in any way reasonable, let alone good, game design?

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Originally Posted by Kiteless

Well, you can't really do the 3 hardmodes + Bahamut + Relic Quest + gearing all the classes until you've completed your runs, at least for darklight gear. Which leaves very little to do in the meantime. So would you suggest, in any capacity, that having players do nothing in the game aside from 2 arbitrary runs a day in a patently unentertaining exercise for several weeks of time that we're supposed to be paying for is in any way reasonable, let alone good, game design?

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No.
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Except you dont really *need* darklight to do coil or the hard modes. Plenty of people are clearing coil in the amdapor gear itself(greens). So get your pieces and buy darklight if you can and try the content, if you find it difficult that's because it is genuinely hard and the extra darklight gear will only make it a little easier.

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Originally Posted by Junpei

Except you dont really *need* darklight to do coil or the hard modes.

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Many Warriors seem to disagree.

I understand people and they have a right to be frustrated by this injustice. Gearing up now will take people who are not 50 3 times the time that rushers took to gear up. Yes, those people who skipped content got rewarded for it.

I leveled 3 classes at once, I even leveled using a lot of dungeons to get better experience with my class. The result: I got to 50 a few days behind the rushers. Still, I started gearing up and got good gear now, passed 2900 worth of ToPs plus enough ToMs saved to get my +1 Monday, but I'm still left disappointed as I will have to earn the rest of my gear the hard way when rushers who took the easy way to level fast using Fates were also able to gear the easy way doing speed runs.

That being said, I got to be honest, there would have been a huge loser anyway, yet I feel like it would have been better to punish those who skipped content rather than punish those who took their time or simply those who were unlucky enough to be unable to play.

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I feel like it would have been better to punish those who skipped content rather than punish those who took their time or simply those who were unlucky enough to be unable to play.

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Well I'm sure there are a lot of people who are happy that you aren't the one who is running the show here.

Good thing you rushed through all of the content.

You can look at it that way....

or:

They fixed the DF que so that premade groups will not have to wait 30 min for the dungeon to pop.

If they fixed DF time delay, and still let us speed run, it would be unfair to those that had to wait. The way I see it, we are even'ish

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Well I'm sure there are a lot of people who are happy that you aren't the one who is running the show here.

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And a lot more who would be happy to see me running the show.

It is boring...lol I fell asleep doing AK yesterday.

They increased the mobs, perhaps increase the amount of tombstones dropped proportionate to the mobs added.

I think it's about 25%.

I'm pretty sure the only mobs they added were like 3 Dullahan? I didn't really notice anything else.

Lol, some ppl are really funny. Playing 20h per day in fate-grinding parties to reach lv. 50 as fast as one can just to cry about missing content thats not even missing. Only because you see only one dungeon doesnt have to mean there is only one dungeon.

I can only laugh about mentality like this really. Maybe you try to enjoy the endless other possibilities the game has to offer instead of flaming devs again for your ignorance.

Everytime i see posts like this (even better it is when the repair costs for "endgame" are combined in that kind of posts) i wonder about todays ppl, really.

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Originally Posted by Puppell

Wow non legacy.. forced to farm Amdapor keep x 20 per week.. This is awful

The runs take forever and it doesn't reward you beyond tomes. I mean if you had a chance at rare drops or something..Do they need suggestions?!.. But this is really bad. Why are there not at least 5-10 dgns.. I hate doing the same one! And a cap on Mythology tomes.. WOW.. they said they listen to community but this is the perfect of example of that being a LIE.

sorry I'm just really frustrated.. I want to love this game... but UGH

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Oh noes I cant finish the game in a month...lol I agree there should be more than one dungeon to grind for tomes though.