Dungeon Limit

I think it'd be cool if they had like a Limit on how many times you can do a Dungeon per day. Maybe 3 per day tops. Not all Dungeons, just a specific dungeon.

Might help with all these people complaining about not enough for repairs, make some stuff rarer.

Seeing posts about some guy running a End-game Dungeon 13 times a day and complaining he's not making enough for repairs...even if each Dungeon only takes 30 minutes...still almost 7 hours of Dungeons.

The average play-time is 1-2 hours according to most MMORPG studies. They should not adjust the entire games economy to satisfy people who nolife the game. This is coming from someone who does 3-4 hours. I don't think they game should modify itself around my play style. I should modify myself to the play style.

Instead of saying "Give me enough Gil doing what I want to do so I don't have to do anything else!"


Diversity.

I mean, if you can't Dungeon Dungeon Dungeon all day, you'll maybe try a craft, or some Guildhest, or Levequest, or hunt some monster with good drops in a Fate, or the like. You'll experience other facets of the game. Instead of just...dungeons.

I'm speechless.

I feel so disappointed in the world we live in today, and I fear for the future.

How is it possible to be so blind and lack basic reading comprehension?

No.

Never forget, Fatigue.

Just No

Make the Wanderer's Palace also drop Mythology stones and up the amount dropped from Hard Mode Primals to at least 10 and you won't see someone spamming the same one 13+ times a day.
(Well some will still but at least it would create some variety)

so then i should pay 15 bucks a month, to play 1-2 hours a day? I am going to guess no game has ever done this because it is a terrible terrible idea. While youre at it why not have them limit the number of mobs you can kill, items you can craft, and nodes you can harvest. perhaps 100 of each?

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Originally Posted by Mkilbride

I think it'd be cool if....

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Mkilbride was limited to one login a week for 5 minutes of gameplay.

Not very nice right?

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Originally Posted by Sadique

so then i should pay 15 bucks a month, to play 1-2 hours a day? I am going to guess no game has ever done this because it is a terrible terrible idea. While youre at it why not have them limit the number of mobs you can kill, items you can craft, and nodes you can harvest. perhaps 100 of each?

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Guild Wars 2 :)

no no no . Let thos that can play 24/7 play 24/7. And us other mortals with families and whatnot, play when we can play..

The world will always be unfair. Deal with it.

Fatigue was an ASSSSSSS

Wtf? Where do you live? Here in the US we have a thing called freedom. If we want to run our gil to the ground spamming dungeons then thats what we will do. If we want to voice our complaints, we will. Dungeon restrictions, wow, some people just love to not have freedom. People amaze me.

I love how all these counter arguments to the gil issue is "do something other than run dungeons". What other service do you pay for where you can't use it the way you intended, and was lead to believe you could, and are instead forced to (and encouraged by what seems a decent chunk of the community), to use parts of that service you don't want.

Please, go pay monthly fees to join some swimming complex, and let them tell you you can only use the pools once a week, unless you want to work there part time, then they'll upgrade it to three times a week. (Did I mention you still have to pay them, and won't get any monetary compensation for your part time work?)

Eitherway, you miss the fact that you earn less gil than you spend, so even if you limit dungeon runs to 3 a day, you'd still be spending the same amount of gil over time, and earning (or not) the same amount of gil over time, it would just be a longer time. Also, if everyone was gathering/crafting, who would buy the items? Everyone gloating about having plenty of cash because they sell on the Market Board would have buttloads of competition, would get undercut into oblivion, and no one would be making any money any more.

Maybe we can negotiate with Square to lower our monthly subscription because we're only using a small portion of the game, and not gathering/crafting. Some how I don't think that'll fly with them so why should the customers have to change their play style? FF14 is great, but some people simply aren't interested in gathering/crafting, and not only should they not be forced to, but if they are continually punished for their play style, eventually they'll leave and move on.

Never post a thread with your opinions, ideas, suggestions or anything else when it comes to all this 'NOT ENUFF GILZ' stuff. You're obviously not allowed and it gives the right for everyone to flame you and call you an idiot when they don't agree because maturity. :rolleyes:

This is a tour de force of terrible. Maybe I can play 10 hours on one day (because it's a day off work) and no hours another (because it was a very long day at the office). Let me decide, I'm an adult. Also 'no-lifers' are as entitled to their lack of a life as the next person is entitled to his excess of a life. A game company deciding for people is a bad idea, and usually just pisses people off.

You know what is annoying though, the queue-ception we have now. I'm not sure how I feel about waiting to wait.

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Originally Posted by Meevers

You're obviously not allowed and it gives the right for everyone to flame you and call you an idiot when they don't agree because maturity. :rolleyes:

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If people put forward a good argument, by all means, but everyone saying that gil deficiency is self-inflicted or not any issue (from what I've read) simply don't. Most suggestions fall back getting you to do things that require significant time investments for minimal gains (FATE farming), especially if you want these gains to line up with your repair bills from other activities (dungeons/raids), or imply that players should partake in a portion of the content which they have no interest in, and incidentally, if everyone did suddenly do it, it wouldn't be as lucrative as it is currently. Oh, and lets not forget people that like to say the issue doesn't exist, because they are level 30 and have 70,000 gil and their repairs are only 400, oh, and they're still making gil!

It is like saying climate change doesn't exist, because the significant effects haven't hit yet.

I would be against dungeon limits.

I do agree that if people are just running dungeons and complaining they are broke. That would be on them.

Your idea doesn't go over well when you combine it with a 300 weekly mythology tombstone cap. It will basically make dungeons become almost a daily. It will cause queue times to get longer because tanks will speed through to the cap pretty easily and not bother queueing again. (because they can't.) On the upside, at least the instance servers wouldn't be full.

For many people at level 50, tomestones are essentially the only option available to progress their characters any further, and dungeons are the only way to obtain those.

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Originally Posted by Mkilbride

hunt some monster with good drops in a Fate

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What fates would those be?

Honestly I feel like we should just get rid of the dungeon timer and call that good. Having a timer on a dungeon isn't exciting, it's just an inconvenience.

Don't tell me what I can't do. I paid to run my gear into the ground because its fun for me. Hitting keys to create wood blocks isn't fun for me. Games that limit what I can do at a time.... Shouldn't charge a sub.

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Originally Posted by Floyd

Don't tell me what I can't do. I paid to run my gear into the ground because its fun for me. Hitting keys to create wood blocks isn't fun for me. Games that limit what I can do at a time.... Shouldn't charge a sub.

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You have no idea what you're talking about. Sometimes they're stone blocks.

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Originally Posted by Sadique

so then i should pay 15 bucks a month, to play 1-2 hours a day? I am going to guess no game has ever done this because it is a terrible terrible idea. While youre at it why not have them limit the number of mobs you can kill, items you can craft, and nodes you can harvest. perhaps 100 of each?

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You forgot the part of course where people would be able to highen up their limits by paying additional fees.


To the OP, nope, nope and nope!
1) People should be able to do what ever they want to do.
2) It opens the road to P2W.

Sounds more like you want to limit other players so you don't get surpassed greatly by people who stand in RT with their AF+1 Relic weapons out to show off to people who will get jealous and go post on the forums on how they need to limit dungeon runs for other reasons than the true reason, which is, you're jealous.

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Originally Posted by AngryNixon

You have no idea what you're talking about. Sometimes they're stone blocks.

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True true, I just got so sick of fighting boulders and rocks as a Maruader, I figured I could attempt to enjoy some variety and chop wood instead.

Dungeon lockouts are stupid. There's no need to artificially block people. It also hurts FCs who are trying to run them to gear their mates in situations where, say, they are running tier 3 but lost some bodies, and need to bring some people from tier 1/2 up to replace them.

Having said that, I'm surprised people think it hasn't been tried before. Some games have LONG lockouts on endgame content. In my experience, the only purpose was to hide the lack of endgame content.

Ignore this guy. He's always posting over on MMORPG about wanting games to go back to the FFXI/EQ days.

Let's limit others because your mommy only lets you play an hour a night and you don't want to be left behind, right?

There's no point or benefit to what you suggested. There's already caps on the tombstones that you want to get anyhow, as it is it will take people months to get full AF2 + relic weapon +1 due to the 300 weekly cap.

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Originally Posted by Orophin

Ignore this guy. He's always posting over on MMORPG about wanting games to go back to the FFXI/EQ days.

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well I have to comment him that his beliefs hasn't changed in almost 3 years. This is the same stuff he was lobbying for back in the 1.0 beta.
you would think in that time he would figure out that this may not be the game for him and move on. Looks like trolling is more his favorite hobby then playing
ffxiv.

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Originally Posted by Drakkan

Let's limit others because your mommy only lets you play an hour a night and you don't want to be left behind, right?

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Dude, Grow up.

yeah we get your a supreme bad as behind a keyboard; but if that's how you want to talk to people, you're just showing how weak you really are.
If this is how you speak to people face to face, I surely hope you have one hell of a health insurance policy.

I do a lot of dungeons. I did Brayflox 4-5 times a day when I was sick/off from work.

Wanna know why?

I'm a healer. If I queue up it lets other people get pops and continue their storyline. I suck up the repairs and look for ways to offset the cost, but I find it sort of a personal 'duty' to do the dungeons as much as I can when I can.... I can collect gear that others don't need from time to time, which my other classes will someday appreciate, but more it's feeling that I'm helping out other players.

Do you REALLY want dungeons limited? Heh.

SE's lack of foresight is amazing at times... could spend a paragraph spouting sarcastic witty comments but it's not worth it with how obvious this was, they should have known what'll happen when only one dungeon providing a certain required token.

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Originally Posted by Haibel

Dude, Grow up.

yeah we get your a supreme bad as behind a keyboard; but if that's how you want to talk to people, you're just showing how weak you really are.
If this is how you speak to people face to face, I surely hope you have one hell of a health insurance policy.

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Free coverage from my company actually, it's not too bad.

I was driving at the motive behind his statement, there's no other reason to suggest such an asinine suggestion otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Drakkan

Free coverage from my company actually, it's not too bad.

I was driving at the motive behind his statement, there's no other reason to suggest such an assassin otherwise.

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You could have said it in a much better way, and it was before you posted.

your approach

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Originally Posted by Drakkan

Let's limit others because your mommy only lets you play an hour a night and you don't want to be left behind, right?

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A better approach

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Originally Posted by Pwnagraphic

Sounds more like you want to limit other players so you don't get surpassed greatly by people who stand in RT with their AF+1 Relic weapons out to show off to people who will get jealous and go post on the forums on how they need to limit dungeon runs for other reasons than the true reason, which is, you're jealous.

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Originally Posted by Haibel

You could have said it in a much better way, and it was before you posted.

your approach


A better approach

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Different strokes for different folks, take it how you will. Sorry if you have thin skin. Now are you actually here to contribute to the discussion, or keep derailing into an argument about feelings and calling out "tough guys"?

Won't like the fact we have limited freedom in choices. DO not support "fatigue" system. Will lose customers more this way.

I see where your coming from, this works in TERA pretty well. Though I am inclined to agree that its not something I would implement later, this is something that would have to be built in, the little kiddies freak out when they lose stuff.

You do know that your suggestion was already used in the original version of FFXIV and it failed horribly because of it... Essentially your saying you want the game to revert back to the way it was when it failed....

If they start putting limits like that on this game then it will really be just like WoW. They are already adding a WoW "gear level" requirement for dungeons. If they keep making this game WoW-Like, I'll just go back to playing WoW lmao. Why start all over again in another game for something WoW-Like when there's WoW? If I wanted to play WoW I'd go play WoW.. This isn't WoW people. No limits.. What's next? You want them to limit how many classes/jobs you can have?

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Originally Posted by Jynxii

why should the customers have to change their play style? FF14 is great, but some people simply aren't interested in gathering/crafting, and not only should they not be forced to, but if they are continually punished for their play style, eventually they'll leave and move on.

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You're right in one thing; there will be those who move on. Unfortunately, this game may not be for everyone. However, it was never promised that you could do absolutely nothing but run dungeons in this game and still stand on your own economically. No MMORPG promises such things. Make no mistake that you are indeed free to play the way you want, but just as it is in life, there are consequences to your actions.