I mean if you just run for 10 seconds and you're in the clear? I think they should get rid of "XXX returns back to its territory. I mean even if you do die there's no penalty. There's no danger, i want danger.
What's the point of Aggro mobs?
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04-27-2011, 12:34 AMrotutuWhat's the point of Aggro mobs?
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04-27-2011, 12:56 AMshots
This has been discussed quite a bit.
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04-27-2011, 01:03 AMReika
Territory only need be removed for NM's everything else needs it. Prior to the change that added territory, you had monsters in levequest following the dead all the way back to the camp, then camping people at the camp. when they revive, they die again.
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04-27-2011, 01:37 AMMartyrThis still happens. Hell, just happened to me the other day unless they changed it up with this patch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reika
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04-27-2011, 09:03 AMFleur
Aggro mobs are often located in close proximity to each other -- so sure, I can outrun that bat in the cellars, but can I outrun it without running into gnats and poachers first? And if I'm in a higher ranked area, many mobs can hit hard enough to kill me before I am in the clear anyway. Besides, I really don't want to have to actually kill every miteling and djigga that chases me during leves in Nanawa; I don't think I'd have time to finish the actual leves. xD
If you want danger, I'd suggest you go to Sorrel Haven and play hide-and-seek with the Efts, or take a stroll through the Copperbell Mines. ^_~ -
04-27-2011, 04:38 PMKimahri
Ok. With this I absolutely agree. It's way too damn easy anymore. Anything in this game is easy. The only thing required anymore is time......I was just running through Nanawa Mine's the other day to go fight the two NM's for the 35 pieces of gear. Along the way I aggro'd everything in the big room before the NM and only was hit once but they all left me alone when I got to the door. I don't want to use XI, but I really liked it how the aggresive enemies stayed with you until you zoned. I know the zones here are huge, but at least widen it's territory or something to about 3x what it is now.
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04-27-2011, 05:14 PMReikaGuildleves like sweet vengeance are bugged in the aspect of territories. Running monsters territories go away after they flee for whatever reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martyr
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04-28-2011, 01:00 AMSmokie23
Well this is one side affect that comes with no zoning. You can't have mobs chase you forever. Mobs chase you back to a city entrance??
I to miss the times when your out and about and one of your party members catches aggro and they have to run back to party for help...or die. This running in the opposite direction for 10 seconds is very easy but what do you suggest with no zoning? I think its either players have zones themselves or the mobs have zones (in which they disengage once reached).
They could make it harder to run from them. Pick up the speed a bit and not give up if the player is still within a certain range. Need more diverse landscape that make it a challenge to run. To open and just run in line and mob is gone. Be better if we had to run around bushes, forests, had edges that got in our way...this will cause players to switch directions which may give mobs a chance to catch up and engage. Gives some mobs the ability to bind you to a spot for a certain amount of time. Mostly used on fleeing players. anything to spice things up a bit. -
04-28-2011, 01:36 AMShiyo
All mobs should have draw-in like toads. I agree agressive mobs are pretty much pointless, we can't even make the world more dangerous by adding more agressive mobs because of how they just deaggro 15 seconds after you autorun, they need completely redesigned :/
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04-28-2011, 05:37 AMMartyrI understand this. We discussed as much in the thread. Only reason I mentioned it was in response to this portion of your prior post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reika
Just letting you know that the problem still exists, so I hope that wasn't their main reasoning behind adding the territory, seeing as there are obviously deeper problems in respect to those leves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reika
Getting back on subject, though, I don't particularly mind either way with the territories. Definitely wouldn't hurt my feelings any if they expanded them a bit. -
04-28-2011, 06:47 AMJinko
If you wana die everywhere yo go just wait for that Hardcore server :)
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04-28-2011, 07:00 AMSmokie23What hardcore server and whats it do?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinko
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04-28-2011, 09:56 AMWilyKat
I'm having flashbacks of crawler trains at the entrance of Garliage Citadel & Crawler's Nest. No getting in or out on foot, and heaps of mobs taking 2 hours to crawl back to their spawn locations.
...or Vrtra at the East Ronfaure gate. There needs to be some kind of a leashing/respawn/something system in place, otherwise it'll break itself. -
04-28-2011, 10:23 AMReikaThat is what happens with no territories lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by WilyKat
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04-28-2011, 09:31 PMJinkoThere was a thread started in the general discussion thread about players who wanted a hardcore server, I was simply being sarcastic :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Smokie23
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04-29-2011, 12:20 AMSmokie23lol oh I was like I want on that one!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinko
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05-02-2011, 07:22 AMDeadRiser
make their territories bigger
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05-02-2011, 07:27 AMShampoooThink of them like fat cops, they start chasing you and your gonna run, but you know they'll only run so far =pQuote:
Originally Posted by rotutu
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05-02-2011, 08:31 AMReikaThey reduced the size at one point. I doubt they will make it bigger again unless the combat changes warrant it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadRiser
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05-02-2011, 08:36 AMDeadRiserHopefully the combat/class changes just makes the game better period!Quote:
Originally Posted by Reika