No EU server

Dont know about others but i think that calling a server that is located in Montreal, Canada for a EU server is wrong

Basicly there is only NA (Montreal) and JP (Tokyo) servers since those are the only 2 locations they got servers

Ive made some ping test on different hours and it wary betwen 100ms up to 600ms on my 100mb fiber connection which is currently the best i can get in DK where i live

In FF 14 there is alot of stuff you have to avoid during boss fight and trash groups and having a 0.1-0,6 second delay makes it harder than playing from closer to where the servers are located

Im guessing SE doesnt care much about the few players they got on the 5 fully populated EU servers to spend money on giving those players the best possible game experience and connection performance

I often see other ppl and myself move out of aoe before the marking on ground disappear and still they get hit by it and often result in ppl dieing and even a wipes

Regards Barthow

While I do agree, mostly the difference isn't noticeable. As was mentioned in a different thread, a lot of the time it's people wanting to get in an extra hit before moving to maximise their DPS. I personally live in the UK, playing on PS3 and only have issues after 6pm due to my ISP, before that it's completely fine and have no latency issue whatsoever. It probably varies between people, ISP's and gaming setups but I don't think it's as big an issue as it could be and is most likely due to your ISP rather than the location of the servers.

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Originally Posted by Kyriea

While I do agree, mostly the difference isn't noticeable.....

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I'm not sure you're completely informed. In a game like FF14 - where reaction is key, a 0.6 second latency is a huge issue. However, there's a further point: It's been determined that this game checks and reports your position to the server at most, 3 times per second. Which means at the very best - your latency is going to be 0.3 seconds, coupled with the 600ms network latency, this is a massive 0.9 (300ms of that being completely artificial) sec, a fraction away from a second. Trying to dodge boss moves? In raids? with 23 other people? I guarantee its going to be an issue - and one that needs fixing sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by Dazusu

It's been determined that this game checks and reports your position to the server at most, 3 times per second.

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"Determined", a.k.a told to us straight by the devs that the our position is checked once every 0.3 seconds, if anyone is wondering.

Yeah i get hit by some aoes that i dodge and some appear undodgeable. Poor eu ppl,

I notice that if i am instant casting while i am running i am much more likely to get by the aoe even if i run really far out of it. It happens with titan landslide aoe. Now i try my best to not instant while running if the boss aoe means death.

This first bit is in blue because people seem to be missing it.

The reason this issue hasn't been noticed much is because of the very long cast times in early game (Everything up to and including AK, but excluding Ifrit Hard), 600ms may not seem too much compared to a 100ms on a 2 second cast ability, its still plenty of time.

When you enter instances with cast times closer to ~1 second (I am unsure of the exact value), like Ifrit or Titan, those pings mean an NA player will have ~0.9s to react and evade, and an EU player will have ~0.4s, less than half as long, subtract the time taken required to run outside the circle, and two more things happen:

1. This is a fixed number removed from the two times, so it makes a larger difference to the EU, so rather than half as long, the EU players can find themselves in situations where the allowed response time is 1/5th or as little as 1/10th of NA.

2. These delays make the response times required go below that humanly possible, and these instances very quickly become unplayable, and in case it is game breaking.

Now server access has somewhat been dealt with, and considering SE's intention to develop dodging type instances, I believe this is on of, if not the highest priority fix in the game at this moment (closely followed by resistance debuff stacking overpowering melee class stacking). Game lag was the single greatest issue I had with 1.0, to clear Ifrit Extreme I know people that had to use MNK for fists of wind, this is no longer an option. It must be fixed.

Note: 2 posts due to stupidly low character limit.

I'm really sick and tired of this topic and how freaking uninformed people in are regards to how ping works and what ms actually means... (I'll give you a slight hint: if you get a delay of 0.6 seconds you should definitely call your provider or completely redo your network)

Man sucks for me playing on a Japanese server and never having these supposed lag issues. The only time I get hit by AOE's or whatnot is when I fail to get out of the way.

I live in Canada BTW.

It sucks not having your own servers. I live in Australia and play on a JP server, most of the time I sit on about 200 latency which is playable if your playing at the top of your game. I just did a run of Titan and couldn't avoid the lay of the lands so I checked, my latency was around 300. So I apologized to the group and was hit with. "FOREIGNER GO BACK TO YOU OWN COUNTRY, YOU SUCK, WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE!"

It wasn't very nice =( I don't ever expect Australia to get it's own server, but this was just really lame to have receive such a horrible reaction.

Jynx, I just checked your character page, you have yet to obtain the magitek mount, you may want to re-read the now blue part of my first post.

Amine, try pinging a server on the other side of the world, I just did, it returned 400ms. That was to a server in a city, which typically has very good coverage. Now imagine someone doing the same to the SE servers who is in a rural or some suburban areas - relatively outside good coverage, their signal has to be forwarded many times. Now add XIVs internal server calculations, and the fact that it is known to send data every 300ms (this alone bumps it up to 700ms, which is more than your supposedly impossible 600ms delay). The important part is, since it's based on your location, it isn't changeable.

SE wanted a game where people can play on international servers, they decided not to host EU servers in Europe, they set this requirement, not the players.

Honestly arguing over the existence of this issue is a rather moot point, because as you will see from my second link, the issue has already been moved to the accepted forums, so they believe it does, and that is all that matters.

I get insane lag on east coast when dodging stuff, my friends from AUS and new zealand basically die outside of circles with their body literally 30 yards away 24/7.

Why would you put servers for EU and USWEST in CANADA? Literally the worst place imaginable.

I live in Italy and haven't really noticed any sort of difference between me connecting to either set of servers or any real disadvantage.

Since i don't notice any lag, you shouldn't too.

So far I've had reasonable amount of time to get away from red circles. It's much better than it ever was in 1.0. It happens that I lag out but I think it's more of a problem with my ISP. The weird thing is watching others not getting away from circles in time on my screen but still manage to avoid getting hurt.

The lag we're talking about isn't always "noticeable", or "obvious" lag. It's unnecessary lag that's just enough to get you killed in a tough encounter (and I presume hard mode dungeons/raids) I take it not many of you have played other fast paced MMOs (speaking to the people saying "I haven't noticed it, therefor it doesn't exist") - Wait until you get to end-game, then tell me it doesn't exist. An extra 100-200ms on top of the 300ms position reports is enough to get you killed at 5% on a raid boss.

The fact that SE don't have a DC to serve the EU players is nothing more than cost cutting (and apparently unnecessary cost-cutting to boot with the current popularity of the game). Find me any other modern global MMO that doesn't have a set of EU servers to reduce the latency for EU players.

Not sure how the rest of you can defend this, trolly SE whiteknights.

Lag, animation issues etc. has now been moved to accepted bugs. Hopefully we can expect EU servers in near future.
More information here http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-everybody%29

And video about lag, responsiveness etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3leMnErroL0

There is already open thread about this issue - European Datacentre http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-datacenter%21