How many customer are they losing per day do you think?

After the 10th day of not being able to consistently log in, how many players do you think SE is losing per day? I know I'm seriously considering dropping this game if I can't play next weekend.

If they have 230,000 connections, then they probably have another 200,000 trying to log in at any given time. I bet if the problem isn't fixed by them in the next week or so that the problem will fix itself simply by people dropping this game for something else.

I know if I was CEO of SE I'd be firing a lot of people for screwing up this project and losing SE a boat load of money. Just saying.

No one will miss you, or the other people constantly complaining about an issue that they have already said will be resolved this week.

a more interesting question imo is how many will stay after first free month :D

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Originally Posted by Enforcer

No one will miss you, or the other people constantly complaining about an issue that they have already said will be resolved this week.

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That is almost word for word what white knights were saying during the 1.0 launch. It seems history does have a tendency to repeat itself.

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Originally Posted by Enforcer

No one will miss you, or the other people constantly complaining about an issue that they have already said will be resolved this week.

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We'll see i guess.

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Originally Posted by Enforcer

No one will miss you, or the other people constantly complaining about an issue that they have already said will be resolved this week.

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Yeah, how dare you complain. I mean, what do you think this is, a message forum for you to post complaints and praise, look for assistance with the game, and find others with whom to play the game?!

Gah, the nerve!

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Originally Posted by cainejw

Yeah, how dare you complain. I mean, what do you think this is, a message forum for you to post complaints and praise, look for assistance with the game, and find others with whom to play the game?!

Gah, the nerve!

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Besides the fact that this is QQ thread no. 3298432234 and counting. I think everyone gets the message already. Square is working to fix it. Keep your complaining till after they're done. It's not like they can set up the entire thing overnight.

"How many customer are they losing per day do you think?" Apparently not enough since i can't log in at the moment. =P

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Originally Posted by Enforcer

Besides the fact that this is QQ thread no. 3298432234 and counting. I think everyone gets the message already. Square is working to fix it. Keep your complaining till after they're done. It's not like they can set up the entire thing overnight.

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It looks like you need to read the topic again dude. I posed a question... I didn't complain...

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Originally Posted by Mythrellas

It looks like you need to read the topic again dude. I posed a question... I didn't complain...

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Well to answer your "question", they're probably not going to lose any amount of important number of people. There's a reason why people can't log in right now, and that's because there are TOO many.

Not enough, i cant login -.-

not a soul tbh

No one will miss all that potential money from the long term subs they're losing each day either, or will they?

I don't know... from what I've seen people are just kind of shrugging and saying "MMO launches..." and saying they're waiting a few weeks to try it out. Beyond some people making jokes about 1.0, I haven't seen too much raging except here in the forums.

To answer the OP... very very few, most likly they are at a NET Positive player gain atm. This weekend the servers and people attempting to log in was worse then any other time since launch. This means more people are trying to log in.

These doom threads are funny... the people leaving and rage quitting are in the massive minority of players atm. SE announced they are fixing it, people need to shutup and wait for the fix which has a date now. More complaining will do nothing honestly, to be honest I am sure the devs are ignoring the people who are still complaining atm, since this issue HAS BEEN ADDRESSED... in the end this will have as negative of an impact on this game as it did in WoW.

Another repeat thread how wonderful. How many are they loosing a day and how many will stay after the first month? hmm considering what we all have what another 33 days of free time, thats not assuming people don't complain whine downrate it on fansites shit talk on facebook and beg for more free time. One would hope none, They've got problems sure but lets hope they get fixed. They're increasing cap with maintenance soon not only that, but they're adding new worlds when that is done as well.

Myself I've already signed up for 180 renew hell i'd do a year if there was an option just to get them some capital to fix some problems. When I get to play I have a great time, loads of fun and hell i mostly gather and craft when I do play with the occasional dungeon heal and fates as they pop. When I can't play such is life another 6 leve quest allotments. /reads a book

Seeing as they're full all the time, they're probably going to make more money than they projected before launch. They can lose thousands and will probably still be making more than they thought they were going to. :$ Also, I think we sold our souls to them by accepting their terms. I'm sure there's a section saying they can do what they want with their game and we don't get a say in how it goes. I'm sure there's a section like that, but I never read those things. :$

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Originally Posted by cainejw

Yeah, how dare you complain. I mean, what do you think this is, a message forum for you to post complaints and praise, look for assistance with the game, and find others with whom to play the game?!

Gah, the nerve!

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People are certainly allowed to complain, but it's a bit pointless to complain about something that SE has already explicitly told us how and when they are going to address it. If the server upgrades come and then the issue still isn't resolved... well then, by all means, complain. Until then it is completely pointless.

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Originally Posted by Mythrellas

I know if I was CEO of SE I'd be firing a lot of people for screwing up this project and losing SE a boat load of money. Just saying.

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This is idiotic.

"You did such a good job on re-creating this game that you have server errors due to an unprecedented popularity spike. You're fired."

I see nothing that caused the project to be screwed up. I see an unanticipated number of players trying to access all at once. Thank god you are not the CEO of SE, and I'm actually disappointed you're a player. If you do so choose to leave, you will not be missed. Not because of your opinion, but because your ignorance is astounding.

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Originally Posted by Nici

"How many customer are they losing per day do you think?" Apparently not enough since i can't log in at the moment. =P

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I concur with this statement.

I know they will be attempting to fix the issue tomorrow. But if for some reason this isn't fixed by the end of my trial; I will be cancelling before I get billed, and I won't re-sub until the server problem is fixed. I can't believe nobody there anticipated that overcrowding might be a problem in a game based on a popular franchise that is cross platform, and being sold all over the world.

Until my trial ends, or this is fixed, I'll just continue trying to log in when I can. On the bright side, Not being able to play this has given me more time to catch up on playing Guild Wars 2.

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Originally Posted by Enforcer

No one will miss you, or the other people constantly complaining about an issue that they have already said will be resolved this week.

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white knight spotted

Very little due to the congestion the forums are still getting. ( another words they REALLY want to play this game).

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Originally Posted by Enforcer

No one will miss you, or the other people constantly complaining about an issue that they have already said will be resolved this week.

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I think you will miss them when/if the servers die in population, or game moves to F2P to support itself.

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Originally Posted by Mythrellas

After the 10th day of not being able to consistently log in, how many players do you think SE is losing per day? I know I'm seriously considering dropping this game if I can't play next weekend.

If they have 230,000 connections, then they probably have another 200,000 trying to log in at any given time. I bet if the problem isn't fixed by them in the next week or so that the problem will fix itself simply by people dropping this game for something else.

I know if I was CEO of SE I'd be firing a lot of people for screwing up this project and losing SE a boat load of money. Just saying.

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Well, since there are still that problems with logging in, because there are to many ppl trying to get online, not many i guess.

So u would fire someone who made a game more popular than you ever imagined? Well, im sure your Company wouldnt last for a long time...

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Originally Posted by Alerith

This is idiotic.

"You did such a good job on re-creating this game that you have server errors due to an unprecedented popularity spike. You're fired."

I see nothing that caused the project to be screwed up. I see an unanticipated number of players trying to access all at once. Thank god you are not the CEO of SE, and I'm actually disappointed you're a player. If you do so choose to leave, you will not be missed. Not because of your opinion, but because your ignorance is astounding.

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You wouldnt fire your game devs, you would fire your network and server analysts/technicians. And possibly whoever thought it was a good idea to ignore the #s coming in from the beta and EA periods.

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Originally Posted by Enforcer

No one will miss you, or the other people constantly complaining about an issue that they have already said will be resolved this week.

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Bookmarking this so I can see what excuse you come up with next week.

No need to upgrade the servers, problem will fix itself when they lose people.

The subscription model supports the 20/80 style of marketing. Your priority is the 20 percent, in this case, the loyal fans that are willing to pay despite the hardships. These are the people they should be really catering to. The 80% are fickle and will quit at the slightest inkling of an issue.

And I'm not saying the best course of action is to support the true fans here, but the honest truth is that the main source of revenue WILL be those that stick around. SE is best to care less for the 80%, because it doesn't matter how much they cater to them, they will quit the game sometime down the line.

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Originally Posted by MrKupo

The subscription model supports the 20/80 style of marketing. Your priority is the 20 percent, in this case, the loyal fans that are willing to pay despite the hardships. These are the people they should be really catering to. The 80% are fickle and will quit at the slightest inkling of an issue.

And I'm not saying the best course of action is to support the true fans here, but the honest truth is that the main source of revenue WILL be those that stick around. SE is best to care less for the 80%, because it doesn't matter how much they cater to them, they will quit the game sometime down the line.

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The game is too good to quit. The servers on the other hand are getting slammed hard. If the game is good enough, they'll come back. They always do.. XD

I'm sure it's pinning off a lot of people, but the fact that we still have congestion problems that actually seem to be getting worse tells me they're not losing much.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

I'm sure it's pinning off a lot of people, but the fact that we still have congestion problems that actually seem to be getting worse tells me they're not losing much.

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^ This right here, It's been a week already, and any normal launches that did this would have left 3-4 days ago. Which tells me this game is really THAT popular.

How do I buy a subscription I can't find it?

Here's the mentality i tend to stick with when it comes to people who just give up so easily:

"If you can't stand the fire, please get out of my kitchen and let me work on putting the fire out"

I have no time for people who have little patience for these types of issues, please grow up or move on and stop wasting space.

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

Here's the mentality i tend to stick with when it comes to people who just give up so easily:

"If you can't stand the fire, please get out of my kitchen and let me work on putting the fire out"

I have no time for people who have little patience for these types of issues, please grow up or move on and stop wasting space.

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Oh look. Another white knight. Maybe you're perfectly fine with bending over and taking every f**k up that a company can dish out. But the rest of us will express our outrage when something like this happens, in the hopes that it won't happen again.

you're just... so.... cool



not even once

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Originally Posted by Duros

Oh look. Another white knight.

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You realize that after all the constant misuse of that phrase from people whilst completely disregarding its actual meaning that it's pretty much lost any meaning whatsoever, right?

If you want to get a point across, stop spouting the same meaningless phrase and baseless complaints. Come up with something that has some real merit. It's not tough.

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Originally Posted by Duros

Oh look. Another white knight. Maybe you're perfectly fine with bending over and taking every f**k up that a company can dish out. But the rest of us will express our outrage when something like this happens, in the hopes that it won't happen again.

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It really isn't a fuck up. Consider this: FFXIV broke simultaneous log-in records. The log-in issues are getting worse. They have to do extensive testing on servers before putting them up. The success of this game could not have been estimated period.

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Originally Posted by Vensaval

You realize that after all the constant misuse of that phrase from people who have no real context of its actual meaning that it's pretty much lost any meaning whatsoever, right?

If you want to get a point across, stop spouting the same meaningless phrase and baseless complaints. Come up with something that has some real merit. It's not tough.

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I get so confused when people use this in unmatching situations... I think the generic/cliche internet vomit he was looking for is "fanboy"

A game so in demand that they have to wait to play? That's what people see. If anything it'll create more demand and curiosity. The game does play wonderfully, and is worth the wait. So just chill and knock out stuff around the house so you can go crazy after they add more servers.