just shut the servers down

dear SE,

its not the right way to let 100k ppl play and 150k ppl to waste their time with trying to log in.

just shut all servers down and take your time to release a stable game

you had enough time for stress testing, didnt you saw these things coming?

im just pissed

I cant login at the moment but I don't expect EVERYONE to suffer that's on because I cant get on. Grow up

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Shut the servers down and then turn them back on to kick all the AFK players so other people have a chance to log on. Sounds like a solid plan to me.

Its better business to let (i.e.) 1 million people "sample it" than it is to only let 150,000 out of 1 million get to try it, leaving 850,000 pissed off people.

yes????

Guys are the servers still down at this point ? im not able to get in!

agreed shut the servers down, bring them back up.. Kick all the AFK people let others play

Besides which shutting the servers down for the time being won't help anything development-side. The problems are largely capacity based. If they can run the game and upgrade the servers at the same time - as they've clearly shown they can, stating they only need a single maintenance window on Wednesday to integrate the expanded infrastructure, then surely switching things off until then would be an entirely pointless gesture.

Of course, if they were to (accidentally of course) say.. trip over the safe shutdown button, and then immediately reboot, causing all those people (not)playing while elsewhere to be disconnected.. well, wouldn't that be a shame.

Why does everyone think that kicking the AFK players will solve the problem?

If 1000 people are AFK and 15000 are trying to log in, you're still screwed either way.

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Originally Posted by TonyUK

I cant login at the moment but I don't expect EVERYONE to suffer that's on because I cant get on. Grow up

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Ignorance is awesome isn't it. If you reset the servers all the )*&^% people that are AFK in game will be logged out and the ones that are waiting to play can log in. Thinking about things logically is hard I know but try it sometime. You might surprise yourself.

I'm playing right now but even I wouldn't mind a restart to help people that can't get in. I would say there's about 60% of the people in game that are just afk and not even playing. If we are playing it'd be a simple re-log which wouldn't be hard since all the afk people wouldn't be trying to get back in right away.

Can't even load the server list , i mean i can't even get the error " unable to get server list " , simple character screen empty , then world is full bla bla 1017 crap

It's not even about kicking a bunch of afker , but having a proper hardware that can stand their Customer .

Sure it's gonna get fixed tomorrow , suuuureee :S

just SE is iignorant!!!!

they thought setting up ONE fucking EU Legacy server is enough.
then they decided JP and rest of the world get almost the same amount of servers.. WTF
who ever made this decission should be fired asap

one server can hold what? 3-5k player ?????
there should be like 200k NA/EU players from 1.0 who waited on 2.0

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Originally Posted by ebuu

just SE is iignorant!!!!

they thought setting up ONE fucking EU Legacy server is enough.
who ever made this decission should be fired asap

one server can hold what? 3-5k player ?????
there should be like 20k EU players from 1.0 who waited on 2.0

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Legacy players are peasants imo, as long as us new guys can play then it's okay.

SE doesn't work on Mondays. Your posts are futile!

I don't see the issue with them doing a server reset at some odd hour in the morning. (Granted I know that may be some peoples play time, but a quick reset should be harmless) Would eliminate all the afk'ers, and those that are actually trying to log in to play, would get to.

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SE doesn't work on Mondays. Your posts are futile!

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Hah, I found you ! /wave

As for server restarts ?
Wouldn't mind, but it would be bad for people that are actually actively playing the game at that time <_<
AFK timer system would be great, sure people have ways for circumventing it but still....

Wednesday can't get here soon enough, hope it helps the full servers too,I'm so tired of the login issues. (and I'm among those that got to play quite a bit)

Server reload please !
Kick those AFKers off the game..............................so players able to play now can play !

I love how people blame AFKers for SE's inability to fix their servers.

I dont mind ._.

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Server reload please !
Kick those AFKers off the game..............................so players able to play now can play !

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Please do this!

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Ignorance is awesome isn't it. If you reset the servers all the )*&^% people that are AFK in game will be logged out and the ones that are waiting to play can log in. Thinking about things logically is hard I know but try it sometime. You might surprise yourself.

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Diplomacy is awesome as is diffusing a hostile situation. As Yoshida (who has a greater IQ than you) has stated, kicking AFK players would only have a placebo effect. You think kicking the small amount of AFK people will magically let the masses log in the game then you are really living in a fantasy world aren't you.




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First off it's not a small amount of players afking. Looking in the main cities around the Main crystal just stand there and observe the movement. You have like 25-50 people there alone not moving for hours. Not to mention the number of people hiding AFKing out in the fields. Well they are fixing this soon. The people here that don't want the restart are the ones leaving their character in game for 5-9 hours while they go to work and stuff.

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Diplomacy is awesome as is diffusing a hostile situation. As Yoshida (who has a greater IQ than you) has stated, kicking AFK players would only have a placebo effect. You think kicking the small amount of AFK people will magically let the masses log in the game then you are really living in a fantasy world aren't you.

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AFK kicking will eventually have to be implemented regardless. Increasing server capacity an extra few thousand players, will help, but people will still /afk as more accounts are created to avoid being in a queue or locked out to future 1017 (full server) errors.

There's a reason afk kicking is available in every mmo and that's to avoid this kind of situation. I don't know where you're getting a "small amount" (of people) from, it looks like a large portion of the population has learned to stay logged in as there are no consequences for doing so. Everyone in-game the last few days were recommending it in chat and I'm sure guilds are doing the same.

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you had enough time for stress testing, didnt you saw these things coming?

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No they didn't see it coming lets think for a second here they had 1.0 which was the single worst game ever and it turned alot of people away. They decided to re make the game and thought it wasn't going to get no where near as much attention that it did because of 1.0 so they made an guess of exactly how many people would be playing. During Alpha and Beta test 1-2 there were a very small percentage of players then when beta phase 3 came the ps3 players and some more pc players got in i think that was the true test of their population expectations. During phase 3 which lasted what a month? There were no login issues at all even when we stress tested the servers which lasted what a week or two near the end of phase 3? So because of that the devs became very certain that the amount of players that were in phase 3 was going to be the amount of players they had at launch. But then the phase 4 started and thats when everything went wrong and i bet the devs kind of wished they didnt advertise the game as much as they did because swarms and swarms of people came in and ever since then they've been having problems with the servers .

Ive been saying this since EA. Shut the servers down. Stop subs, and re open them when they think they can handle the load.

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Why does everyone think that kicking the AFK players will solve the problem?

If 1000 people are AFK and 15000 are trying to log in, you're still screwed either way.

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Some basic math for you with made up numbers in regards to servers/auto disconnects/server stress:

Let's say FFXIV servers cap at 20k, now you have 5k 24/7 AFKers whom only play from 8AM-5PM and stay AFK'd from 5PM till 8AM the next morning.
You now have a group of 5k "normal" players whom play from 5PM-11PM, these players are unable to do so or do so based off other "normal" players however this is highly unlikely.

An auto-disconnect setting would force the 24/7 AFKers to release all 5k of their slots upon them logging out at 5PM thereby opening 5k slots to the "normal" group of 5k players whom play from 5PM-11PM. Using this example the 20K player cap on the FFXIV server would not be overloaded as though out the entire 24 hour window each slot on the server is being used and recycled by more than one player whom stays AFK for over 10 hours.

Surely if you followed me with this clearly made up example forcing AFK players out of the game is an excellent solution to keep server population and overload in check. At no point in time is it logical or even cost effective to allow server resources go to waste on a user whom is not using them while denying the same resources to a user whom will at that exact given time.

There are three solutions to the current server problems within FFXIV:

1- Expand Server Cap
2- Force Auto-Disconnection after 30/45 minutes
3- Create more dedicated Lobby/World servers/allow free transfers for 60 days to newly created World servers

Creating more World servers without increasing the cap nor adding an Auto-Disconnection feature will not resolve the problem but create a temporary fix, as the exact same problem will start on the newly created servers.

If I'm mistaken I have only read of Square creating new servers, I do not recall offering free transfers as of yet or implementing a forced AFK disconnection.